Sage should work out of the box without "--enable-system-site-packages". If 
it doesn't, that's a bug in Sage. How about we don't allow Python 3.13 if 
it's broken? Why wasn't this caught in testing?


On Monday, February 24, 2025 at 7:34:13 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 5:44 PM John H Palmieri <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On OS X 15.3.1 with many homebrew packages installed, including both 
> Python 3.12 and Python 3.13:
> >
> > - if I use Python 3.13, `pillow` and `cffi` fail to build. (I used 
> "./configure", and I also tried after applying the patch from #39570)
>
> how about using installing pillow and cffi in Homebrew, and doing
>
> ./configure --enable-system-site-packages
>
> This should pick them from Homebrew. (If it doesn't it's a Sage bug I 
> suppose)
>
> Frankly speaking I am less than excited to try to figure out what goes
> wrong in sdh_pip_install
> in this case. Homebrew can do it...
>
> > - if I use Python 3.12, then `pillow` and `cffi` and indeed everything 
> builds successfully. (I used "./configure --with-python=`which python3.12`")
> >
> >
> > On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 3:40:17 PM UTC-8 Volker Braun wrote:
> >>
> >> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git 
> branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
> >>
> >>
> >> 9cd86e9596a (tag: 10.6.beta7, github/develop) Updated SageMath version 
> to 10.6.beta7
> >> c2766d1f625 gh-39541: Remove dead mailing lists.
> >> 54951498178 gh-39536: Fix a nonfunctional long time doctest tag
> >> 5289298248a gh-39533: build/pkgs: update eclib to version 20250122
> >> 7420a272382 gh-39530: Improvement to flint_autogen reader
> >> cee1e2b52f9 gh-39527: Test on CI that update-meson is properly ran
> >> a007379b910 gh-39523: multi polynomial element/repr
> >> 850493472d5 gh-39521: rename also set-like species
> >> bd626efc02f gh-39518: line_graph for multigraphs
> >> 72c6188116a gh-39513: Show test failures of ci-meson as annotations
> >> 4f4c1203415 gh-39510: add of the function rank_support_of_vector
> >> 2af3de6fa6e gh-39509: Add a doctest for 
> HomsetsCategory._make_named_class_key
> >> d8b7cdfcecb gh-39508: Fix some typo
> >> b567299fbbb gh-39506: New algorithm for cuts of a Poset
> >> 88672d71a29 gh-39505: Improve handling of strings supplied as matrix 
> entries
> >> 935232df552 gh-39504: Implement im_gens in the class fraction_field_FpT
> >> a01815fda00 gh-39499: Improve sage_getfile by looking at __init__
> >> b7da8f23c43 gh-39498: Apply sort and filter of walk_packages 
> consistently
> >> 3500f616037 gh-39497: moving random_element to category of rings
> >> e368fa71812 gh-39496: Add deformation cones and checking for regularity 
> for Point Configurations and normal fans of Polyhedra
> >> 8978ff83f52 gh-39495: Add documentation of Gabidulin codes in the 
> reference manual
> >> 98eec5d86fe gh-39494: Fix more doctests in meson_editable install
> >> cfbaaf16be2 gh-39491: fixing doctests failures in misc/latex*.py
> >> a2737325c19 gh-39489: fix several oeis related doctests
> >> 8a44c7365b7 gh-39488: Fix issue on matrix construction over integer mod 
> ring for large coefficients
> >> 78a3eede92c gh-39487: Improvement of the rendering of the documentation 
> in polynomial sequence
> >> 34b7f9050fb gh-39486: Finish changing Rational's round method default 
> rounding to even
> >> 04afcf71552 gh-39485: Implement conversion from laurent series to 
> rational function field
> >> ae158663847 gh-39482: fix one typo
> >> 83f7d065286 gh-39481: Fixed issue in list_plot where it assumed data 
> had been enumerated when it might not have been
> >> 8e204dde3b3 gh-39479: Fixed crash when exp(0) of p-adic numbers is 
> called
> >> 11ee7ca4e19 gh-39477: typing and details in tableaux files
> >> c61e562de76 gh-39476: typing annotation for gens method in rings and 
> groups (pyx files)
> >> 85ce297ff2c gh-39474: convert gens method in modular to return tuple
> >> c732c6552e4 gh-39473: add tuple typing to gens methods in algebras
> >> 556d5f0eb80 gh-39466: remove some deprecations in groups
> >> c22e48480c3 gh-39456: Trivial simplifications for arccos
> >> 68744be391e gh-39454: remove deprecated stuff in permutation.py
> >> 784ff00867a gh-39449: Magma padics
> >> 897e722c74e gh-39423: Use import_module instead of find_spec
> >> 870aba20786 gh-39397: details in braid groups
> >> e6975bebe80 gh-39381: Allow system python 3.13
> >> b57e33797cf gh-39366: Add documentation to LaurentSeries point to 
> accessors
> >> 357f95e088c gh-39365: Allow coercion from Frac(QQ[x]) to 
> LaurentSeriesRing(QQ)
> >> 041336691f6 gh-39266: add parameter immutable to generators in 
> `sage/graphs/digraph_generators.py` (part 2)
> >> e0806107d60 gh-39251: Require Python 3.11 or newer; remove outdated 
> workarounds
> >> ac8406fba6a gh-39248: introduce new apozeta polynomial for posets
> >> 10edc54de0a gh-39215: Class polynomial for Drinfeld modules
> >> 2e0d6d201bf gh-39214: Add keyword prec for exponential and logarithm of 
> Drinfeld modules
> >> b5c26156430 gh-39212: Refactor period lattice
> >> d0e72a61433 gh-39128: Add note about makeflags and ninja parallelism
> >> 067ebbd0c8c gh-39093: Improve hack used in debug_options
> >> a89c57b64f8 gh-39092: Remove erroneous member declaration in 
> farey_symbol
> >> cc231ef0353 gh-39061: Fix some errors in documentation of cachefunc
> >> f0581cbe397 gh-39025: Add reseed_rng option to p_iter_fork
> >> 290b261bc4f gh-38986: Allow CRT_list() to be called with one argument
> >> 0a278fc918e gh-38824: Turn some doctests in `ell_rational_field.py` 
> into long tests
> >> c43cd23ee83 gh-38650: Add support for pseudomorphisms
> >> 6e82ee51eb9 gh-38108: Implicit function solver for lazy series
> >> 42d00ed27b3 gh-37173: Implemented `.ramified_places` and modified 
> further methods to extend quaternion algebra functionality to number fields
> >> 8d7107c1aab gh-37158: use Parent in quotient rings too
> >> 766c7a0c5b8 (tag: 10.6.beta6) Updated SageMath version to 10.6.beta6
> >
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