The next issue, after scipy built, was that sagelib would not build.  The
cause of that was more obvious.  But it is a major departure from 10.7 in
the direction of adding new dependencies:

[spkg-install] Run-time dependency Boost (missing: graph, tuple) found: NO
(tried system)
[spkg-install] Run-time dependency OpenMP found: NO (tried system)
[spkg-install] Run-time dependency mtx found: NO (tried pkgconfig,
framework and cmake)

Especially given that the spkg boost_cropped-1.66.0.p0 was successfully
installed.  So Sage's cropped boost is no longer sufficient for Sage?

- Marc

On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 8:38 PM Marc Culler <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, but I figured it out (I think).  Just a stupid mistake on my part.
> Somehow the libgfortran that got installed in Sage was the one for x86_64
> not arm64.  And that is what meson was trying to use to build scipy.
>
> There is an important lesson here, though.  The problem was obvious once I
> managed to get the meson log file.  But the default behavior for meson is
> to put the log file in a temp directory and then delete the directory
> whether or not the build succeeds.  Sounds unbelievable, but it seems to be
> true.  The magic trick is to edit spkg-install.in to replace the line:
> sdh_pip_install --no-build-isolation .
> with
> sdh_pip_install --no-build-isolation --config-settings build-dir=build .
> The effect of that is to make meson write the log file into a directory
> named build inside the spkg src directory so that you can actually read the
> log file.  Since Sage deletes the whole build directory anyway, there is no
> reason to create a temp directory inside of the build directory which is
> already a temp directory itself.  And the meson log file is actually
> extremely helpful.
>
> SUGGESTION: add the option --config-settings build-dir=build to all
> spkgs which build with meson.
>
> - Marc
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 6:43 PM Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marc,
>> you know the drill - please post config.log and the scipy spkg install
>> log.
>>
>> It would also help to know where your gfortran is coming, as the logs are
>> sometimes not very helpful.
>>
>>
>> On September 28, 2025 5:43:28 PM CDT, Marc Culler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am not able to build the scipy spkg with 10.8beta5 on macOS arm.  The
>>> build fails with a bogus error like "fortran compiler cannot generate
>>> code".  I say it is bogus because (a) the same gfortran worked fine to
>>> build openblas and (b) it also works fine to build scipy if I set my PATH
>>> to include sage/local/bin and run `pip wheel .` in the scipy spkg src
>>> directory.  But if I follow the recommended procedure to setup the sage
>>> build environment and change to the scipy src directory then running bash
>>> spkg-install fails with the same bogus error about gfortran.  So some
>>> variable is being set in the sage build environment that breaks gfortram.
>>>
>>> I thought I might be able to build the wheel and install it with Sage's
>>> pip and then use configure args -enable-system-site-packages and
>>> -with-system-scipy=yes.  (My "system" is located in sage/local/lib.).  That
>>> appeared to work.  The config.log says:
>>>     real_configure:92110: will use system package and not install SPKG
>>> scipy
>>> However, that turns out to be a lie.  When I run make build it tries to
>>> build the scipy spkg, anyway and that fails with the same bogus error.
>>>
>>> Any insights would be very welcome!
>>>
>>> - Marc
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 27, 2025 at 3:24:39 PM UTC-5 Volker Braun wrote:
>>>
>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git
>>>> branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at
>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>
>>>> This now lets you build Sage from a clean repo again
>>>>
>>>> f4adc250dcc (HEAD -> develop, tag: 10.8.beta5, github/develop,
>>>> github/HEAD) Updated SageMath version to 10.8.beta5
>>>> 0ef31d1493e (origin/develop) gh-40877: Revert gh-40765 which breaks
>>>> builds from the git repo
>>>> c76e5732904 gh-40881: sage.categories.finite_fields: don't import from
>>>> integer_ring
>>>> 73534d061e3 gh-40880: update mypy config
>>>> 2d7ac649b9b gh-40879:
>>>> sage.rings.polynomial.polynomial_singular_interface: drop unused import
>>>> f933e1b77aa gh-40865: some typing -> bool for is_* methods
>>>> 3f910e456b5 gh-40864: remove deprecated function in plot3d/texture
>>>> ca525df620d gh-40863: remove a deprecated alias in quadratic forms
>>>> 418f3e9c7a4 gh-40862: remove deprecated aliases in real_set
>>>> 32f6fc6e175 gh-40861: removed some deprecations in structure
>>>> 451f8873b7e gh-40860: some care for pbori
>>>> 36741a523fc gh-40858: Fix const polynomial conversion to Singular
>>>> interface
>>>> 42c4f72447d gh-40857: Fix pdf docbuild failure if destination file
>>>> exists
>>>> 487663cccbc gh-40856: Workaround for linbox charpoly/minpoly issues
>>>> d25b9f144b9 gh-40853: adding a note on Coxeter polynomials
>>>> 9ef52039751 gh-40852: clean and annotate _gap_init_ -> str
>>>> b1492b466ce gh-40851: add some -> tuple annotations
>>>> 2e4ef691f0d gh-40843: Restore release notes creation step
>>>> b0b0395810b gh-40839: Fix in label synchronization bot according to
>>>> issue #40758
>>>> 3efb3f4181c gh-40814: Rerun plural and singular/function on failure
>>>> 26c168c736d gh-40810: Implement is_hyperelliptic
>>>> 85f65571f75 gh-40795: Fixing a bug in permuted basement NS Macdonalds
>>>> and some cleanup
>>>> 5eebf97feec gh-40755: cli: print full backtrace if there is an
>>>> exception when running a file
>>>> ddfdc3e24f8 gh-40746: Print full relative path for sage-runtests
>>>> d12a97eccb2 gh-40678: Fix pytest collection
>>>> a8914f81934 gh-40618: ⬆️ Bump jakebailey/pyright-action from 2.3.2 to
>>>> 2.3.3
>>>> 83b52a79bab (tag: 10.8.beta4) Updated SageMath version to 10.8.beta4
>>>>
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