Thanks. The code came out looking a little strange. As it's rather long, longer than the other examples I saw, it might make sense to give a link to < https://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/1687/ >.
As I now have an account, eventually I hope to contribute some code to SAGE. One of those "Don't hold your breath" affairs. Still new -- any ideas where I should look? I'm under the impression that many things need done, and not just pounding out code -- while that might be "sexy," sometimes other things are more important in the big scheme of things. Thanks! Dean --- On Feb 18, 2008 6:22 AM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 17, 2008 4:47 PM, dean moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Took me awhile to respond. Distractions. > > > > Last generated a few responses, replying to all under a new subject line > > (last thread was getting clogged), in no particular order, > > > > > David Joyner: > > > > > Thanks for the cool gif! > > > It would be great f you could post it to > > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/pics > > > (or it you tell me what to post, I will for you). > > > > Futzed around, logged in, but couldn't figure it how to post it. > Attached. > > It's easy to > > modify the original source code at < > https://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/1687/ > > > & juggle > > constant to make various relations. Thanks if you can post this, or > tell me > > how! > > Done. It's at: http://wiki.sagemath.org/pics > > > > > > > mabshoff: > > > > > We want to channel traffic into two mailing lists: sage-support for > > > everything that isn't an developer issue and sage-devel for developers > > > issue. Many issues on sage-newbie didn't get the attention they needed > > > because too few people were reading it. Your chances to get replies > > > are much better on sage-support. > > > > I thought "sage newbie" no longer existed. Do correct me & all else if > I > > am confused. > > > > > Jason Grout: > > > > > This is great stuff! I think it's a perfect place to post it. > > > > > > We really ought to set up a library of wonderfully documented examples > > > of how to use Sage, something like the Maple application center or the > > > Mathematica Demonstrations project. The current list of notebooks > > > > Thanks. Glancing at the published notebooks, many are quickie solutions > > (and not documented at all -- no top documentation saying "This program > > differentiates polynomials; we use this logic ..." shuts off my brain) > to > > narrowly-focussed problems not of much interest to, say a high school / > > college > > student wanting to know, "What's this SAGE thing about? What's in it > for > > *me*?" > > > > Might be good to have separate sets of examples for varied grade levels. > > Most > > college kids are concerned about learning differentiation & integration, > > solving > > DE's, systems, engineering/science problems, -- not learning what a > parabola > > is > > (though I've taught a few ...). > > > > Just an idea. > > > > > Dean, you mentioned the frustration of trying to learn a new system. > > > Was there anything that we could have done to make it easier (sorry > > > about the unanswered posts to sage-newbie; we all kind of dropped the > > > ball with keeping up with so many different mailing lists). > > > > There's always that learning curve, shaking a fist at the computer, then > the > > "Aha!" > > moments. Wish I had a good answer. Lots of good WELL-DOCUMENTED > examples? > > Then I can browse published worksheets, "Oh, this person did this thing > at > > least > > related to what I'm looking at?" > > > > And maybe a place to post those *** well-documented examples *** for > review, > > "Here's a nifty workbook I did that illustrates the manifold uses of > > spendiferous > > functions," or maybe more importantly, "This worksheet illustrates how > to > > use > > SAGE to do this not-easy-to-code thing?" (whatever), and someone reviews > it, > > "Yes, darn it, that is solid; let's post it for all under a name that > makes > > sense" (another problem with the published worksheets). > > > > Elsewhere observed, > > > > > ... it is not organized or searchable (I don't think) ... > > > > This needs work. Having played with SAGE a bit, I see it trying to go > from > > being a garage band to Led Zeppelin (well, that's overstating a bit), > and > > sometimes the old ideas need revamped. > > > > > Dean, I guess I should add that just last year, I was a newbie sage > user > > > as well. I felt how much people welcomed newcomers and cared about > > > helping people get up to speed ... > > > > You guys / gals / whoever were pretty cool. When questions went > unanswered > > I > > kind of figured, "Oh, we all live busy lives." I had the impression > that > > others wanted quickie answers -- those happen, but don't count on them > > often. Can't one set a "welcome message" to all new users of a group > to > > make policies clear? > > > > Would love to do some development of whatever, examples, documentation, > > wherever, a > > worthwhile contribution, and doubtless I'm not alone. Some things > could > > perhaps be > > more clear, "We need more good functionality in this small subset of > > calculus," "The > > spendiferous functions code is poorly documented, full of magic numbers > & > > obscure > > logic & needs cleaned up" (whatever). > > > > Dean > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
