On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:04 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  That's an excellent suggestion ! I've just ordered it. I already had
>  your book on group theory.
>
>  I guess it should be easy to do the GAP/Magma code in Sage.
>
>  By the way, I also find your "teach" pages very interesting.
>
>  As for the bug, I'll use William Stein's suggestion of the digits
>  method.
>

By the way, the oct issue has been fixed and the fix will
be in the next version of Sage.  (Vesion 3.0.1).

>  Yann
>
>
>  On Apr 30, 12:42 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Well of course I have to mention my own book, Applied Abstract Algebra.
>  > It is online athttp://wdjoyner.com/teach/book/. Browse all you want.
>
> > You can also buy it in hardcover (from JHUP available via amazon.com).
>  > Full disclosure: all royalties go directly to to charity. It does have
>  > GAP examples but no
>  > SAGE examples in it.
>  >
>
>
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:28 AM, Yann Le Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > >  Hello,
>  >
>  > >  First, the function oct does not work properly, it seems.
>  >
>  > >  oct(2345) fails in Sage (but works in Python)
>  > >  oct(int(2345)) works
>  > >  hex(2345) works
>  >
>  > >  Irc said it was the preparser. Why would the input of oct be preparsed
>  > >  correctly and not that of hex ?
>  >
>  > >  Sage uses notions from abstract algebra. I never use abstract algebra 
> when
>  > >  doing my coding in physics. I guess software like Mathematica kind of
>  > >  guesses the best way to proceed with the input I give. Now, this guess
>  > >  might not be the most appropriate.
>  >
>  > >  So I'd be grateful if anyone had some suggestions for a book on abstract
>  > >  algebra that would teach me the practical usage of rings, fields, etc.
>  > >  from a computational point of view ; something like "common 
> computational
>  > >  errors and fallacies corrected by an abstract algebra approach", 
> something
>  > >  that would build upon ideas like "1/3 + 1/10**20 - 1/3" is better done 
> in
>  > >  the the rationals than in the floats. Maybe some book similar to Forman
>  > >  Acton's books that would explicitly use notions of abstract algebra.
>  >
>  > >  I had a look at Schaum's Modern Abstract Algebra by Ayres, 2004, but
>  > >  comments on amazon mentioned multiple errors, opacities and out of
>  > >  datedness. Irc suggested wikipedia. Any other suggestion ?
>  >
>  > >  Cheers,
>  >
>  > >  --
>  > >  Yann Le Du
>  >
>



-- 
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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