On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM, John Cremona <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there any kind of policy stated anywhere about using the public
> servers such as sagenb.org for  class teaching?  I think I would
> assume that if I were to use Sage for a class then it should be my
> responsibility (or my institution's) to provide the service, not to
> reply on the public server.  Of course it's different if the use of
> sagenb,org is explicitly tagged as experimental for the class, with an
> assumption that if the class works well a local server will be set up
> as a longer-term solution.
>
> Just wondering,

I own the sagenb.org hardware, and manage the servers, and here's what
I think about how they should be used.    Use of http://sagenb.org
should be mainly for experimental use, and not something anybody
should rely on.   I make no stated -- even attempted -- guarantees
about backups, privacy, security, stability, uptime, etc.

That said, the wheels are in motion to start an off-campus service
called "http://sagenb.com"; (which will initially contain a clone of
http://sagenb.org), for which I will want to encourage as wide of
usage as possible.  It will generate revenue that will go toward
supporting Sage development.

 -- William

>
> John
>
> On 7 February 2012 17:42, Jason Grout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 2/7/12 11:09 AM, Gwyn wrote:
>>>
>>> A second problem I've encountered trying to use sage for this class:
>>>
>>> Initially, after I'd created a Sage notebook account, if I logged out
>>> for more than (around) an hour and tried to log back in, I would
>>> receive a message:
>>>
>>> "Username does not exist."
>>>
>>> I created the same username a second time with the same password and
>>> signed in -- and my worksheets were all saved and fine.
>>>
>>> This lasted for about a week and a half, where every time I was signed
>>> out, the server seemed to "forget" my username.  When it "forgot", any
>>> published worksheets I had needed to be republished, and any shared
>>> worksheets lost my collaborators (or I was removed from the
>>> collaboration list on another worksheet.)
>>>
>>> I had my students all create usernames for the lab we did in class
>>> last Wednesday, share them with their lab partner, and with myself.
>>> Within an hour after class, all of the worksheets (which I could see
>>> from my home page in my sage account) disappeared.  Out of the 24
>>> students who had signed up for accounts, I can see TWO of their
>>> usernames still (after I told them to resign up with the same username
>>> and reshare their worksheet.)
>>>
>>> Is there something I can do to make their usernames "stick"?
>>>
>>
>> I've just created a new account on sagenb.org to try to replicate this.  The
>> server restart I just did may have fixed this as well.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
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Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
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