On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:26:16 AM UTC-5, LFS wrote:
>
> Hi guys - I am sure that there is much more available. But actually 
> William you hit the nail on the head. The page I used was "a small 
> undergraduate student project" and its contents are useful and accessible. 
> That is the level I want  - so a student or someone like me can use Sage in 
> place of MatLab or Mathematica in the undergraduate mathematics classroom 
> without getting bogged down in learning programming. To me, the problem is 
> that so often (a) I cannot find something basic or if I do: (b) I cannot 
> understand how to use it in Sage. Do a search for "sage statistics" or 
> "sage histogram" and you are immediately passed off to one or more of the 
> underlying programming languages each with its own specific syntax style. 
> For the first search, that one page is all there is for sage. For 
> histograms, I spent *many, many hours* searching before I wrote my first 
> comment in this thread. I found and tried every single one of the commands 
> in the "sage stat reference" pages. I did the scipy stuff. I could sort of 
> get an array with the counts and the bins if I worked at it really hard (I 
> had to separate out the returns), but I never could find a way to plot it. 
> I am sure there is some reference, but I could not find it. 
> Perhaps this: "a student or someone like me can use Sage in place of 
> MatLab or Mathematica in the undergraduate mathematics classroom" is not a 
> goal of Sage. However, my impression was that this was 



Unfortunately, I don't think we have enough people using Sage per se (as 
opposed to R or Scipy) for stats who would also have time and be willing to 
write exactly this worksheet!  For instance, I am not a statistician, nor 
have ever taken a course in stats, so our 
attempt http://sage.maa.org/home/pub/24/ at this (see 
also http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13381 where this would enter 
the standard doc) is unfortunately one of the better pieces.  It's a 
chicken-egg problem - we need people who use this stuff daily in the 
classroom to write such resources, but they aren't able to use Sage easily 
enough to be motivated to do so :(

It is SO unfortunate that the sagenb.org published worksheets had to be 
turned off - often a half hour of searching there yielded untold stores of 
fruit.

Thanks for your feedback and efforts; they really are appreciated. 

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