On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:45 AM, William Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Georgi Guninski <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 07:48:24AM -0800, William Stein wrote:
>>> On Nov 28, 2013 4:36 AM, "Volker Braun" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It would be just as easy for a compromised cloud ssh to download your
>>> personal private key than to log your password.
>>>
>>> I always protect my ssh keys by passphrase protecting them, so just
>>> downloading the private key does not trivially give access.  Instead the
>>> attacker would have to setup some sort of logger to get the passphrase,
>>> which is harder.  I also sometimes use ssh-agent.
>>>
>>
>> sorry, this doesn't make sense at all.
>> ssh(1) uses your private key, so it knows it.
>> please don't spread disinformation and don't
>
> Ugh.   If you properly passphrase protect your private key then
> somebody who *copies* the private key file ~/.ssh/id_rsa gains
> nothing.     I did not claim anything other than this, and I am not
> spreading disinformation.
> I should have added the word "file" emphasized in my post above: "just
> downloading the private key [file!] does not...".
> I thought it was so obvious that if you log into a remote linux
> machine and somebody else has also logged into the same machine as the
> same user, then anything you do is not secure.   I thought it would go
> without saying.   I'm sorry if there is any confusion.
>
>  -- William

Anyway, the discussion above about "Easiest way to use cloud.sagemath
in a terminal?"  is just an answer to that question -- I'm not trying
to spread disinformation.

Fortunately, directly ssh'ing into a machine that is 100% compromised
is unlikely to directly result in a compromise of the client [1],
which is a good argument for me to add direct ssh access to
cloud.sagemath, when I have the time to do so.

[1] 
http://serverfault.com/questions/510154/if-using-public-keys-only-an-ssh-client-logs-into-or-is-already-logged-into

>
> --
> William Stein
> Professor of Mathematics
> University of Washington
> http://wstein.org



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University of Washington
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