As reported in the ticket :

charpent@zen-book-flip:~$ python --version
Python 3.9.8

HTH,
​
Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 19:35:20 UTC+1, dim...@gmail.com a écrit :

> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 5:41 PM Emmanuel Charpentier <
> emanuel.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So far :
>>
>>    - 
>>    
>>    Rebuild from scratch : sage command line crashes (same problem)
>>    
>> Wait, what's this new system Python? Is it not a 3.10 by any chance?
> In more detail, from which to which versions did you upgrade?
>
>  
>
>>
>>    - 
>>    - 
>>    
>>    After sage -f ipython : ditto.
>>    
>> In both cases, the sagemath Jupyter kernel works in both the Jupyter 
>> notebook and Jupyter lab
>>
>> sage -i <SomeSagePackage> also works.
>>
>> Worth a ticket <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/32852#ticket>…, whose 
>> priority I’m uncertain about.
>>
>> Obvious workaround : ./configure --with-system-python3=no && make
>>
>> HTH,
>> Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 12:31:06 UTC+1, Jan Groenewald a écrit :
>>
>>> Maybe sage -f ipython will fix it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 at 13:22, Emmanuel Charpentier <
>>> emanuel.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 10:49:28 UTC+1, dim…@gmail.com a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 09:45 Emmanuel Charpentier, <
>>>>> emanuel.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 10:41:59 UTC+1, dim...@gmail.com a 
>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it might be that you have to rebuild all the cython/python packages 
>>>>>>> of Sage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> That amounts to rebuilding from scratch, no ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> not everything depends on python in Sage, e.g. GAP does not.
>>>>>
>>>>> at the very minimum, do
>>>>>
>>>>> make sagelib-clean
>>>>> followed by
>>>>> make build
>>>>>
>>>> No such luck : this crashes again. Grrr…
>>>>
>>>> The trace points to something called traitlets 
>>>> <https://traitlets.readthedocs.io/en/stable/>. Seems specific to 
>>>> interactive command-line use (sage -optional still parses its 
>>>> arguments and runs okay.).
>>>>
>>>> Attempting rebuilding from scratch…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> it's hard to say which of the gazzion of the other python spkgs is 
>>>>> affected
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 09:35 Emmanuel Charpentier, <
>>>>>>> emanuel.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A routine upgrade of Debian testing (where a few Python binaries 
>>>>>>>> were upgraded, broke a formerly functional (command line) Sage. It now 
>>>>>>>> crashes at startup :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> charpent@p-202-021:~$ sage
>>>>>>>> ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
>>>>>>>> │ SageMath version 9.5.beta2, Release Date: 2021-09-26               │
>>>>>>>> │ Using Python 3.9.8. Type "help()" for help.                        │
>>>>>>>> └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
>>>>>>>> ┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓
>>>>>>>> ┃ Warning: this is a prerelease version, and it may be unstable.     ┃
>>>>>>>> ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛
>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>   File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/bin/sage-ipython", line 15, in <module>
>>>>>>>>     app.initialize()
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 88, in inner
>>>>>>>>     return method(app, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/IPython/terminal/ipapp.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 308, in initialize
>>>>>>>>     super(TerminalIPythonApp, self).initialize(argv)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 88, in inner
>>>>>>>>     return method(app, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/IPython/core/application.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 450, in initialize
>>>>>>>>     self.parse_command_line(argv)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/IPython/terminal/ipapp.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 303, in parse_command_line
>>>>>>>>     return super(TerminalIPythonApp, self).parse_command_line(argv)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 88, in inner
>>>>>>>>     return method(app, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 709, in parse_command_line
>>>>>>>>     self.cli_config = deepcopy(loader.load_config())
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 851, in load_config
>>>>>>>>     self._parse_args(argv)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 908, in _parse_args
>>>>>>>>     self.parsed_data = self.parser.parse_args(to_parse)
>>>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 1834, in parse_args
>>>>>>>>     args, argv = self.parse_known_args(args, namespace)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 768, in parse_known_args
>>>>>>>>     return super().parse_known_args(args, namespace)
>>>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 1862, in parse_known_args
>>>>>>>>     namespace, args = self._parse_known_args(args, namespace)
>>>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 2076, in 
>>>>>>>> _parse_known_args
>>>>>>>>     start_index = consume_optional(start_index)
>>>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 2016, in consume_optional
>>>>>>>>     take_action(action, args, option_string)
>>>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 1944, in take_action
>>>>>>>>     action(self, namespace, argument_values, option_string)
>>>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>>>  line 933, in __call__
>>>>>>>>     namespace._flags.append(self.flag)
>>>>>>>> AttributeError: 'Namespace' object has no attribute '_flags'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rebuilding Sage (make build) was unsuccessful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, using Sage via the Jupyter notebook still works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suggestions ?
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