On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 9:28 PM João Camarneiro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I stumbled upon a strange error with the affine_hull() function for 
> polyhedra. A minimal example is:
>
> pp = Polyhedron(vertices=[[-1, -1, 1, -1], [-1, -1, 5, 1], [-1, 5, -1, 1], 
> [5, -1, -1, 1]])
> pp.affine_hull()
>
> This throws the following error:
> TypeError: no conversion of this rational to integer
>
> If I add "base_ring = QQ", i.e.
> pp = Polyhedron(vertices=[[-1, -1, 1, -1], [-1, -1, 5, 1], [-1, 5, -1, 1], 
> [5, -1, -1, 1]], base_ring=QQ)
> pp.affine_hull()
>
> then everything works fine.

Yes, sure, and you have a vertex with non-integer coordinate.

sage: pp.affine_hull().lines()
(A line in the direction (0, 0, 2, 1),
 A line in the direction (2, 0, 0, 1),
 A line in the direction (0, 2, 0, 1))
sage: pp.affine_hull().vertices()
(A vertex at (0, 0, 0, -1/2),)

It's because affine_hill() is given by Minkowski sum of a vertex and a
linear hyperplane.
(the latter given by 3 lines)

The hull is an affine hyperplane {x | <x,(1, 1, 1, -2)>=1}
sage: pp.affine_hull().Hrepresentation()
(An equation (1, 1, 1, -2) x - 1 == 0,)
No wonder this breaks for the default base_ring=ZZ.
>
> Is this a bug?

it's a documentation bug, as it's not clear from the docs on
affine_hull that you have such an
unusual representation of the result.

HTH
Dima


>
> I am using Ubuntu 24.04 through WSL, and running SageMath version 10.8 on a 
> Jupyter Notebook.
>
> See below for the full error output.
> Thanks!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> TypeError Traceback (most recent call last) Cell In[1], line 2 1 pp = 
> Polyhedron(vertices=[[-Integer(1), -Integer(1), Integer(1), -Integer(1)], 
> [-Integer(1), -Integer(1), Integer(5), Integer(1)], [-Integer(1), Integer(5), 
> -Integer(1), Integer(1)], [Integer(5), -Integer(1), -Integer(1), 
> Integer(1)]]) ----> 2 pp.affine_hull() File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/base6.py:911,
>  in Polyhedron_base6.affine_hull(self, *args, **kwds) 909 return self 910 
> self_as_face = self.faces(self.dimension())[0] --> 911 return 
> self_as_face.affine_tangent_cone() File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/misc/cachefunc.pyx:2353,
>  in sage.misc.cachefunc.CachedMethodCallerNoArgs.__call__() 2351 if 
> self.cache is None: 2352 f = self.f -> 2353 self.cache = f(self._instance) 
> 2354 return self.cache 2355 File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/face.py:941,
>  in PolyhedronFace.affine_tangent_cone(self) 937 new_ieqs = [H for H in 
> self.ambient_Hrepresentation() 938 if H.is_inequality()] 939 new_eqns = [H 
> for H in self.ambient_Hrepresentation() 940 if H.is_equation()] --> 941 
> return parent.element_class(parent, None, [new_ieqs, new_eqns]) File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/backend_ppl.py:70,
>  in Polyhedron_ppl.__init__(self, parent, Vrep, Hrep, ppl_polyhedron, 
> mutable, **kwds) 68 Polyhedron_mutable.__init__(self, parent, Vrep, Hrep, 
> **kwds) 69 if not mutable: ---> 70 self.set_immutable() File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/backend_ppl.py:193,
>  in Polyhedron_ppl.set_immutable(self) 190 except TypeError as e: 191 # 
> Apparently the polyhedron is (no longer) integral. 192 self._clear_cache() 
> --> 193 raise e 194 if not hasattr(self, '_Hrepresentation'): 195 
> self._init_Hrepresentation_from_ppl(True) File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/backend_ppl.py:189,
>  in Polyhedron_ppl.set_immutable(self) 187 if not hasattr(self, 
> '_Vrepresentation'): 188 try: --> 189 
> self._init_Vrepresentation_from_ppl(True) 190 except TypeError as e: 191 # 
> Apparently the polyhedron is (no longer) integral. 192 self._clear_cache() 
> File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/backend_ppl.py:309,
>  in Polyhedron_ppl._init_Vrepresentation_from_ppl(self, minimize) 307 
> parent._make_Vertex(self, coefficients) 308 else: --> 309 
> parent._make_Vertex(self, [x/d for x in coefficients]) 310 elif g.is_ray(): 
> 311 parent._make_Ray(self, coefficients) File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/parent.py:1096,
>  in Polyhedra_base._make_Vertex(self, polyhedron, data) 1094 except 
> IndexError: 1095 obj = Vertex(self) -> 1096 obj._set_data(polyhedron, data) 
> 1097 return obj File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/geometry/polyhedron/representation.py:1160,
>  in Vrepresentation._set_data(self, polyhedron, data) 1157 if len(data) != 
> self._vector.degree(): 1158 raise ValueError('V-representation data requires 
> a list of length ambient_dim') -> 1160 self._vector[:] = data 1162 
> self._index = len(polyhedron._Vrepresentation) 1163 
> polyhedron._Vrepresentation.append(self) File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/modules/free_module_element.pyx:1961,
>  in sage.modules.free_module_element.FreeModuleElement.__setitem__() 1959 if 
> isinstance(i, slice): 1960 PySlice_GetIndicesEx(i, d, &start, &stop, &step, 
> &slicelength) -> 1961 values = [R(x) for x in value] 1962 if len(values) != 
> slicelength: 1963 raise IndexError("slice assignment would change dimension") 
> File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/structure/parent.pyx:899,
>  in sage.structure.parent.Parent.__call__() 897 if mor is not None: 898 if 
> no_extra_args: --> 899 return mor._call_(x) 900 else: 901 return 
> mor._call_with_args(x, args, kwds) File 
> ~/miniforge3/envs/sage/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sage/rings/rational.pyx:4214,
>  in sage.rings.rational.Q_to_Z._call_() 4212 """ 4213 if not 
> mpz_cmp_si(mpq_denref((<Rational>x).value), 1) == 0: -> 4214 raise 
> TypeError("no conversion of this rational to integer") 4215 cdef Integer n = 
> Integer.__new__(Integer) 4216 n.set_from_mpz(mpq_numref((<Rational>x).value)) 
> TypeError: no conversion of this rational to integer
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