#10963: More functorial constructions
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       Reporter:         |         Owner:  stumpc5
  nthiery                |        Status:  needs_work
           Type:         |     Milestone:
  enhancement            |    Resolution:
       Priority:  major  |     Merged in:
      Component:         |     Reviewers:  Simon King
  categories             |   Work issues:  Reduce startup time by 5%. Avoid
       Keywords:         |  "recursion depth exceeded (ignored)". Trivial
        Authors:         |  doctest fixes.
  Nicolas M. ThiƩry      |  Dependencies:  #11224, #8327, #10193, #12895,
Report Upstream:  N/A    |  #14516, #14722, #13589
         Branch:         |
       Stopgaps:         |
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Comment (by SimonKing):

 Replying to [comment:64 nthiery]:
 > Replying to [comment:60 SimonKing]:
 > > And a more general question we should answer: What is the semantics of
 `super_categories()`?
 > >
 > > It used to be like this, if I understood correctly:
 `C.super_categories()` should return a list of all categories `S1, S2,
 ...` constructible in Sage such that C is a proper sub-category of `S1,
 S2, ...` and there is no category D '''constructible in Sage''' such that
 C is a proper sub-category of D and D is a proper sub-category of any of
 the `S1, S2, ...`.
 >
 > I very much like this definition, and think it's still perfectly up to
 > date.

 This totally surprises me now.

 Back to the `Fields().Finite().super_categories()` example. I have argued
 that we have a couple of axioms, and keeping all axioms but one gives us a
 list that (after removing duplicates) gives us a list of super categories
 that exactly follows the specification above. And in comment:51, I have
 shown that this definition more or less forces us to have
 `Fields().Finite().super_categories() = [Category of fields, Category of
 finite commutative rings]`.

 And you argued against this answer (because of having 2^4^ many additional
 "empty" categories in the list of all super categories). You seemed to be
 in favour of `Fields().Finite().super_categories() = [Category of fields,
 Category of finite enumerated sets]`.

 Actually, this is why I came up with the other specification of
 `C.super_categories()`. That's why it surprises me that you now say you
 like this specification less.

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