#10963: Axioms and more functorial constructions
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       Reporter:  nthiery            |        Owner:  stumpc5
           Type:  enhancement        |       Status:  needs_info
       Priority:  major              |    Milestone:  sage-6.2
      Component:  categories         |   Resolution:
       Keywords:  days54             |    Merged in:
        Authors:  Nicolas M. Thiéry  |    Reviewers:  Simon King, Frédéric
Report Upstream:  N/A                |  Chapoton
         Branch:                     |  Work issues:  merge with #15801
  public/ticket/10963-doc-           |  once things stabilize
  distributive                       |       Commit:
   Dependencies:  #11224, #8327,     |  ce2193e9d6f179d2d51812c6af002697ccfbaa8c
  #10193, #12895, #14516, #14722,    |     Stopgaps:
  #13589, #14471, #15069, #15094,    |
  #11688, #13394, #15150, #15506,    |
  #15757, #15759, #15919             |
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Comment (by pbruin):

 Replying to [comment:617 darij]:
 > I still disagree with the idea of having GradedLieAlgebras a subcategory
 of LieAlgebras. "Sub" implies injectivity throughout mathematics;
 forgetful functors are not injective. IMHO the whole point of speaking in
 categories is to piggyback on existing mathematical intuition of the user.
 This is completely against that intuition.
 I strongly support your opinion.  An example that annoys me a lot (already
 present before this ticket) is
 {{{
 sage: C = Sets(); D = Groups()
 sage: D.is_subcategory(C)
 True  # expected False
 }}}
 In my humble opinion, either this should return `False`, or the name
 `is_subcategory()` should be changed so that it does not go against the
 established meaning of the notion of subcategory.  I would be much happier
 if the syntax would be something like `C.has_coerce_functor_from(D)` or
 `D.has_coerce_functor_to(C)`.  (This is just a first idea that came to
 mind, suggested by `has_coerce_map_from()` for parents, but maybe the
 analogy is not strong enough for that.)

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