#7140: HP-UX port of Sage - issues arrising from such an attempt.
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Reporter: drkirkby | Owner: tbd
Type: enhancement | Status: new
Priority: minor | Milestone: sage-wishlist
Component: porting | Keywords:
Work_issues: | Author:
Reviewer: | Merged:
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Description changed by drkirkby:
Old description:
> I think it would be useful if we could get an HP-UX port of Sage.
> Mathematica used to support HP-UX until quite recently, but no longer
> does. However, as of today (6th October 2009) an HP-UX port is clearly of
> low-priority compared to issues with OS X 10.6, Solaris, Windows and
> Cygwin.
>
> Having just done a fresh install of HP-UX on my
> [http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?locale=en_US&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=44449
> HP Visulize C3600] which is fitted with a pair of 36 GB SCSI disks and 1
> GB RAM (soon to be upgraded to 8 GB).
>
> {{{
> # uname -a
> HP-UX hpbox B.11.11 U 9000/785 2016698240 unlimited-user license
> }}}
>
> I thought I'd document the issues one would get from a totally fresh
> install. It should be noted that the C3600 uses the
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PA-RISC PA-RISC] processor, not the
> [http://www.intel.com/design/itanium/documentation.htm Intel Itanium]
> which has been used on all HP's machines running HP-UX since the end of
> 2008.
>
> As and when bugs are found which would prevent Sage building on HP-UX,
> the trac numbers will be added here.
>
> * The C compiler supplied with HP-UX is not fully functional, and is
> only intended to rebuild the kernel. As such, it would be useless for
> building Sage. Commercial compilers are available from HP.
> * gcc is not supplied with HP-UX, but can be downloaded free from
> various sites. When I checked, the HP website the latest available gcc
> was version 4.4.0, which is quite up to date (the very latest is 4.4.1).
> In order to download gcc from the HP site, you need to join HP's
> ''Developer & Solution Partner Program (DSPP)'', but that is free for
> individual users at least. However, the gcc from HP was configured only
> for C and C++, so one would need to build gcc oneself to include Fortran
> support, '''or''' find a binary for gcc where Fortran support is
> included.
> * On PA 11.11 systems, the linker patch PHSS_33033 is required to
> compile C++ programs with gcc.
> * By default, /home, where user's home directories resides is limited to
> about 20 MB or so. This needed to be expanded using ''/usr/sbin/sam''
> * Install a suitable version of GNU ''make''. Currently Sage would try
> to build with the version of ''make'' in HP-UX, but it would fail. Due to
> bug #7142, no checks are made that the version of ''make'' found is the
> GNU ''make''
> * Install a suitable version of GNU ''tar''. Currently Sage would try to
> build with the version of ''tar'' in HP-UX, but it would fail. Due to bug
> #7143, no checks are made that the version of ''tar'' found is the GNU
> ''tar''
> * #7156 causes an error message, as the -p option is not supported on
> HP-UX. In practice, the fix is trivual and would not in itself present a
> problem to building Sage on HP-UX.
>
> Dave
New description:
I think it would be useful if we could get an HP-UX port of Sage.
Mathematica used to support HP-UX until quite recently, but no longer
does. However, as of today (6th October 2009) an HP-UX port is clearly of
low-priority compared to issues with OS X 10.6, Solaris, Windows and
Cygwin.
Having just done a fresh install of HP-UX on my
[http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?locale=en_US&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=44449
HP Visulize C3600] which is fitted with a pair of 36 GB SCSI disks and 1
GB RAM (soon to be upgraded to 8 GB).
{{{
# uname -a
HP-UX hpbox B.11.11 U 9000/785 2016698240 unlimited-user license
}}}
I thought I'd document the issues one would get from a totally fresh
install. It should be noted that the C3600 uses the
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PA-RISC PA-RISC] processor, not the
[http://www.intel.com/design/itanium/documentation.htm Intel Itanium]
which has been used on all HP's machines running HP-UX since the end of
2008.
As and when bugs are found which would prevent Sage building on HP-UX, the
trac numbers will be added here.
* The C compiler supplied with HP-UX is not fully functional, and is only
intended to rebuild the kernel. As such, it would be useless for building
Sage. Commercial compilers are available from HP.
* gcc is not supplied with HP-UX, but can be downloaded free from various
sites. When I checked, the HP website the latest available gcc was version
4.4.0, which is quite up to date (the very latest is 4.4.1). In order to
download gcc from the HP site, you need to join HP's ''Developer &
Solution Partner Program (DSPP)'', but that is free for individual users
at least. However, the gcc from HP was configured only for C and C++, so
one would need to build gcc oneself to include Fortran support, '''or'''
find a binary for gcc where Fortran support is included.
* On PA 11.11 systems, the linker patch PHSS_33033 is required to compile
C++ programs with gcc.
* By default, /home, where user's home directories resides is limited to
about 20 MB or so. This needed to be expanded using ''/usr/sbin/sam''
* Install a suitable version of GNU ''make''. Currently Sage would try to
build with the version of ''make'' in HP-UX, but it would fail. Due to bug
#7142, no checks are made that the version of ''make'' found is the GNU
''make''
* Install a suitable version of GNU ''tar''. Currently Sage would try to
build with the version of ''tar'' in HP-UX, but it would fail. Due to bug
#7143, no checks are made that the version of ''tar'' found is the GNU
''tar''
* #7156 causes an error message, as the -p option is not supported on HP-
UX. In practice, the fix is trivual and would not in itself present a
problem to building Sage on HP-UX.
* #7171 M4RI configure script aborts when it tries to find the cache
size.
Dave
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