#10545: Add the outer product of two vectors
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   Reporter:  rbeezer         |       Owner:  jason, was  
       Type:  enhancement     |      Status:  needs_review
   Priority:  minor           |   Milestone:  sage-4.6.2  
  Component:  linear algebra  |    Keywords:              
     Author:  Rob Beezer      |    Upstream:  N/A         
   Reviewer:                  |      Merged:              
Work_issues:                  |  
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Old description:

> Title pretty much says it all.  Students frequently can't tell an inner
> product from an outer product (probably not too careful about where a
> transpose is).  Maybe this will help.
>
> Depends on #10541

New description:

 Title pretty much says it all.  Students frequently can't tell an inner
 product from an outer product (probably not too careful about where a
 transpose is).  Maybe this will help.

 Depends on #10541

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Comment(by rbeezer):

 Hi Nils,

 Thanks for the comments.  Since vectors are neither rows nor columns in
 Sage, any notion of a transpose is irrelevant.  The outer product just is
 what it is.  I could delete the mention of the transpose in the
 mathematical description in the docstring.

 "Someone" are 19-year-old students, who shouldn't need to understand a
 lambda function to learn linear algebra.

 Sage can work well with a column-oriented approach - it just needs a few
 things.  Check out:

 http://wiki.sagemath.org/devel/LatexToWorksheet

 http://linear.ups.edu

 Rob

 Replying to [comment:2 nbruin]:
 > I didn't know that is sometimes used as a definition of "outer product",
 but Wikipedia backs you up on it.
 >
 > In other languages, "exterior product" translates to the same word as
 "outer product", so a -1 from me for having this definition of outer
 product. I think this term will be a source of confusion.
 >
 > If someone needs the tensor product, it is easy enough to get via the
 one-liner
 > {{{
 > lambda v,w: matrix(len(v),len(w),[a*b for a in v for b in w])
 > }}}
 >
 > (given Sage's preference for row vectors versus the preference of most
 LA texts for column vectors, I expect that relating inner/outer products
 to a question of where to put the transpose is only going to cause *more*
 confusion in students, by the way)

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