#9623: interacts for high school level education
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Reporter: schilly
| Owner: itolkov, jason
Type: enhancement
| Status: needs_review
Priority: major
| Milestone: sage-4.6.2
Component: interact
| Keywords:
Author: Lauri Ruotsalainen, Harald Schilly, Robert Marik, Marshall
Hampton | Upstream: N/A
Reviewer: Jason Grout, Karl-Dieter Crisman, John Thurber
| Merged:
Work_issues:
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Changes (by kcrisman):
* reviewer: Jason Grout => Jason Grout, Karl-Dieter Crisman, John
Thurber
Comment:
I am really glad I looked at these. In general, they are really nice, and
ready for prime time - and SO much easier to use than sifting through the
wiki!
But oh my goodness... SO many minor things that still had to be taken care
of. I apologize for not creating a new diff - I had already started
making the changes quite a bit when I realized I should have just made a
reviewer patch. I tried to make the commit message maximally informative,
though. There is already too much stuff on here to try to avoid the patch
bomb; in retrospect, we should have added these a little more
incrementally so as to avoid this situation.
So, '''very''' unfortunately, I must still ask for review on this. There
are too many changes. '''BUT''' I feel like many of them are ones which
would have impacted the professionalism pretty significantly. Read on.
Things I fixed:
* We needed to import `fast_callable` for the Julia set one, for whatever
reason.
* I removed the hemisphere, tried to improve the wording of the coin as
well as I could - it's a nice example, in fact.
* Many formatting things, $, ticks in doc, confusing wording, bad
parenthesis in label of difference quotient, etc.
* Fixed bad thing in function tool where deprecation warning appeared
because of `f(x*a)`-type stuff in the code.
* The two formulas on the Simpson one were on top of each other in Safari
(not FF). Since the author used the equals sign incorrectly in any case,
I added some words to clarify it was an approximation, and that fixed it.
I think Safari may not like math without words between math (see below for
another possible example). Same on trapezoid.
* In fact, the entire "Area" line in the trigonometry one was gone on
Safari, probably because of `\text`, which I removed. Also note the
triangle was called `A`, not `ABC` as it should have been.
PS - I love the fact you can sage -b while the notebook is still running.
This would have been impossible otherwise.
Things I did not fix:
* Really annoying thing where using these seems to reset my worksheet
every so often - I mean it just stops and returns me to the top. This
could be because I had the worksheet open in FF and Safari at the same
time. (?)
* Annoying thing that I could not access the documentation for an
interact in the notebook once I had already viewed that particular
interact. This might be a general interact bug.
* I could not easily figure out how to get this in the reference manual;
I think I have to create a new directory and a .rst file that will somehow
autogenerate, but I don't know how to do this (though I'm sure it's easy).
The original patch of Harald's did not work for me.
* Polar prime spiral consistently complains about failing to evaluate the
function at various points. I had no idea how to fix this, since there
are so many functions I couldn't easily identify which one wasn't
evaluating, though perhaps it's one of the parametric plots (makes most
sense).
* Trig properties angle and circle and text ALL fail to format properly
in Safari (not FF).
* The unit circle one should somehow have formatted `pi`, but I still
don't know how to do that.
* Julia set thing doesn't zoom when you zoom, unless you zoom a lot.
Instead it just cuts off the picture for the zoom area. Maybe it needs a
simultaneous plot point uppage? Incidentally, this one could REALLY use
an 'update' button.
* Julia and Mandelbrot ones look kind of sad compared to easy-to-download
apps available nowadays, even at max plot points. I suppose this is the
limit of what we can do with an interact of this kind.
* Some of these definitely need a teacher to interpret for someone who is
brand new to things. That's not a bug, but worth pointing out, especially
if there is a way to get these in the reference manual. For instance, the
trig on a triangle one is a little weird, because you're putting points on
a unit circle labeled by degree. Okay, but then there are still tick
marks labeled on the axes! So we're sending a mixed - and weird - message
with that. Not a game-stopper, but still somewhat rough.
* Quad. Eq. one stacks a little too close in the formatting even in the
opening gambit.
* Some of the graphers need more flexible ranges. I'm not sure how to do
this conceptually, though, since we have to hardcode something in with the
interacts, and too big a range will make it too hard to zoom. I guess my
point is these are not universal.
* Trapezoid and simpson didn't always immediately respond to the 'from
keyboard' change. Maybe you have to click that first, before doing any
keyboard changes, or it doesn't like it?
* To me, trig isn't calculus, but I'm not arguing that it can show up
there, so I left that one in both calculus and geometry.
So tickets that should be opened after someone (''please''! unless I
missed something) gives this positive review:
* Fixing the problem with buttons in multiple rows Jason mentioned.
* Putting the hemisphere plot back in, if we want to.
* Polar prime spiral plot point issue.
* Figure out how to get this in the manual
* Figuring out how to truly doctest them. For instance, there could at
least be a search for deprecation warnings, or even random input typed...
but at least more than just checking that an html block is formed.
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