#11850: random element of ideal
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   Reporter:  dangtuanhiep         |          Owner:  malb               
       Type:  enhancement          |         Status:  needs_work         
   Priority:  trivial              |      Milestone:  sage-4.7.2         
  Component:  commutative algebra  |       Keywords:  random, ideal, sd34
Work_issues:                       |       Upstream:  N/A                
   Reviewer:                       |         Author:  Hiep Dang          
     Merged:                       |   Dependencies:                     
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Changes (by malb):

  * status:  needs_review => needs_work


Comment:

 I don't think this code
 {{{
 #!python
 sum(g * self.ring().random_element(degree - g.degree(), *args, **kwds) for
 g in self.gens())
 }}}
 returns a uniformly random element up to the given degree.

  * one should at least use the Gröbner basis instead of gens()
  * even then I don't think this code returns uniformly random elements up
 to some degree, because of potential cancellations.

 I suggest to do:

 {{{
 #!python
 f = P.random_element()
 f = f - f.reduce(self)
 }}}

 which is "as random" as {{{P.random_element()}}} because {{{P = I \oplus
 P/I}}}.

 In case you are wondering: sampling uniform from an ideal given a set of
 generators is as hard as computing the GB (at least for dense/zero-
 dimensional systems):
 http://eprint.iacr.org/2011/289

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