#11936: image_type of galois_representation of EllipticCurve hangs on first call
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   Reporter:  dkrenn           |          Owner:  cremona                       
                         
       Type:  defect           |         Status:  new                           
                         
   Priority:  minor            |      Milestone:  sage-4.7.3                    
                         
  Component:  elliptic curves  |       Keywords:  ellipitc curve, 
galois_representation, image_type, kash
Work_issues:                   |       Upstream:  N/A                           
                         
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Comment(by wuthrich):

 Thanks. The reason it hangs for you and not for me is that I don't have
 the optional package KASH installed. For me it raises the
 {{{NotImplemented}}} error and it passes to the except.

 So this is not a problem of galois representations, but of how Galois
 groups are calculated, I fear. Here is the command that is called:

 {{{
 R.<x> = QQ[]
 f = x^36 + 232*x^35 - 1409590*x^34 - 208771080*x^33 + 542002034595*x^32 +
 36849258927684*x^31 - 28701669009468742*x^30 - 1696654153633045980*x^29 +
 733820474374957876065*x^28 + 40734331558473487809840*x^27 -
 11465777486812349057484526*x^26 - 644250813449703542918356892*x^25 +
 125177336158984809052605425600*x^24 + 7693565456991227136062966261700*x^23
 - 1116530121510329941650665203053550*x^22 -
 72071805573472538906636525663956020*x^21 +
 9247213638567012639899553190096543060*x^20 +
 489070230674343941519687717200037034600*x^19 -
 63821424089313130077462129567772086334300*x^18 -
 2076960734134142012731684732329794421249300*x^17 +
 262061131595952754895901016203359127399833635*x^16 +
 5147227487591445981717637850998628590176666520*x^15 -
 185570840529826733080990829035096852217828321100*x^14 -
 14878238968057089923405449092346290005791654017200*x^13 -
 1547964860908179062293039197523670128542795694054325*x^12 +
 34667825973614327709199311382710180266142624053184472*x^11 -
 7770857837470021854621559660984035253823067605233925446*x^10 +
 332496595306827138498694624156463235069407086237978206720*x^9 +
 50515743005409091880315980155729585601028981868957828356515*x^8 -
 1488439010064063165131003688799387682254808807901674208959260*x^7 +
 11989258410297219585803474836805748253128362834002738889049838*x^6 +
 11756542465546263464703460049021530422982958442853357231814356*x^5 +
 113628831616635393026353283720453609974562180685019518331117688690*x^4 -
 1493996526282733423722228420360775582764552584088512647233847040320*x^3 +
 26598660230348604947516388314265739137380307179828340819884014361980*x^2 -
 201214061751046506338009477533304151375139639284039242526562543549292*x +
 40745133036885593180393722044782759619921619610745354128620011908847961

 K.<t> = NumberField(f)
 K.galois_group()
 }}}

 I won't be able to chase if this is a problem in KASH or if the
 computation is just extremely difficult with KASH. Magma gives me the
 answer

 {{{
 Permutation group acting on a set of cardinality 36
 Order = 36 = 2^2 * 3^2
     (1, 3, 14, 19, 21, 32)(2, 4, 13, 20, 22, 31)(5, 15, 35, 23, 34, 17)(6,
 16,
         36, 24, 33, 18)(7, 10, 11, 26, 27, 30)(8, 9, 12, 25, 28, 29)
     (1, 17, 9, 2, 18, 10)(3, 31, 12, 7, 6, 34)(4, 32, 11, 8, 5, 33)(13,
 29, 26,
         24, 15, 21)(14, 30, 25, 23, 16, 22)(19, 35, 28, 20, 36, 27)
 ...
 }}}
 relatively quickly.

 If it is a bug somewhere else it has to be fixed there. If instead the
 computation is not feasable when having KASH installed, then we best take
 this example out of the testing.

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