#12229: Add section in the developers manual about sagenb development
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       Reporter:  jdemeyer       |         Owner:  mvngu                        
                                            
           Type:  enhancement    |        Status:  needs_work                   
                                            
       Priority:  blocker        |     Milestone:  sage-5.2                     
                                            
      Component:  documentation  |    Resolution:                               
                                            
       Keywords:                 |   Work issues:                               
                                            
Report Upstream:  N/A            |     Reviewers:  William Stein, Jeroen 
Demeyer, Punarbasu Purkayastha, Karl-Dieter Crisman
        Authors:  Jason Grout    |     Merged in:                               
                                            
   Dependencies:                 |      Stopgaps:                               
                                            
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Comment (by kini):

 Replying to [comment:36 kcrisman]:
 > Okay, I have a few questions.  Mostly this is because of the annoying
 autogenerated thing this is from.

 I agree about it being annoying - why are we using an autogenerated thing,
 anyway? Our mercurial docs aren't autogenerated.

 > * The file `this_project.inc` has
 > {{{
 > .. Sage Notebook
 > .. _`Sage Notebook`: http://sagemath.org
 > .. _`Sage Notebook github`: http://github.com/sagemath/sagenb
 >
 > .. _`Sage Notebook mailing list`: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-
 notebook
 > }}}
 >   but I doubt we want the Sage notebook site to be sagemath.org, as
 there are a number of links to this.  What is the best "generic" Sage
 notebook URL?

 Well, ideally it is http://nb.sagemath.org/ , but that page is extremely
 outdated right now. Someone should update it.

 > * I don't understand why there are several references to sending files
 to the Sage notebook devel list.  That is really not at all what we want
 it to do!  So what ''do'' we want it to do?  Surely not to upload to Trac
 ;-)
 > * "Hardcore forking action" is semi-offensive and unfortunately part of
 the old crude hacking humor thing.  We should delete it.

 Those actual words appear on github when you fork a repository, by the
 way.

 > * There is a lot of reference to just sagenb, but in reality one might
 want it to be inside the devel directory (well, or whatever happens in the
 "new" Sage tree someday).

 Once the whole Sage tree switches to git (#13015), this autogenerated
 stuff will be even less adequate. At least now it seems that most sagenb
 contributors are fairly experienced at contributing to open source
 projects. That is not true of sage library contributors.

 > My recommendation: make it '''really really obvious''' that this is
 absolutely generic documentation, and fix the things above.  This should
 all be doable in index.rst and a few other places.   I can do some of
 this, but am not sure what the answers to the first two questions are.
 >
 > Also, although this should still be a blocker for whatever release the
 new Sage notebook goes in, I don't think that the new notebook should
 depend on it; we want people testing it as soon as possible.  By the way,
 once the new notebook goes in, do we still need the removal and recreation
 of the symlink?  I guess so...

 You mean the symlink `$SAGE_ROOT/devel/sagenb`? Of course not :)

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