Kalau masih bisa bayar hutang dengan hutang artinya masih capable untuk dapat hutang. Pengajuan super pailit? Istilah apalagi ini? Negara di ajukan pailit :). Gak usah di bahas lah kemampuan us untuk bayar hutang. Di sini saya cuman menekankan bahwa krisis yg nyata dan lagi terfokus itu di eropa. Jadi kalau negara yang sudah di anggap bermasalah itu kena downgrade artinya tidak mengejutkan lagi. Tapi kalau us sampai di downgrade 2 level apalagi 3 level bisa di bayangkan dong gimana pasar menyikapinya. Terbukti hanya di downgrade satu level saja oleh s&p langsung rontok. Belum di tambahin sama moody atau fitch Powered by IDX BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:48:59 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain Loh koq bisa gitu ? Us itu dibangun dgn pondasi kapitalism. Nafasnya capitalism ya debt itu sendiri. Perkara didowngrade us nya ya iyalah,, dia bayar utang dgn utang. Jelas2 ngakalin para kreditur. Tau apa dampaknya Q3 thd para kreditur foreignnya ? Salah satunya dr asia yaitu China, ya super kesel bener. Jd Jgnkan downgrade klo ada pengajuan super pailit pun sbenernya wajar banget!! Krn fund manager pun udah tau.. Cuman belom booming aja, Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -----Original Message----- From: "TungCuan" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 12:16:25 To: saham<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain Kalau eropa nya italy dan spain di downgrade sudah gak heran . Kalau jerman dan us di downgrade baru masalah. Powered by IDX BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "panda" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 03:00:11 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain Harusnya penurunan rating udah pasti terjadi ya, wong memang masalahnya di eropa sana udah sering diberitain, masa iya malah di upgrade, kan malah aneh, ga inline sama adanya masalah Tapi itulah, kadang bikin panik yang berjamaah Ditampung, trus dinaikin lagi deh Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -----Original Message----- From: tommy boy <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:57:26 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain you are rite bro cuan. my mistake :) salah ingat antara moody dan fitch. my poin is kalaupun downgrade. gak usah terlalu worry. moody downgrade. tetap ok europe. msh optmis sama indeks bakal rally On Sat Oct 8th, 2011 9:45 AM ICT [email protected] wrote: >Thanks bro sy sudah baca twittnya desmond..yg ini bukan ya? > >"3. Kabar terakhir Moody's turunkan peringkat utang Italia 3 level. Berita ini >keluar stlh market US tutup lho (Tanya knp?)" > >Kl bener yg itu..itu kan ngomongin Moody's, bkn Fitch :) > >"A professional trader isolates himself from the herd and has trained himself >to become a predator rather than a victim." - Tom Williams > >Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone > >-----Original Message----- >From: tommy boy <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:40:04 >To: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain > >bro cuan, di twitter desmond wira udah info downgrade pas market tutup kamis. >On Sat Oct 8th, 2011 9:35 AM ICT [email protected] wrote: > >>Sy baca di bloomberg fitch downgrade 2 negara itu pada tgl 7 okt setelah >>market tutup. Bro tommy dpt info downgradenya italy n spain tgl 6 okt dr mana >>ya? Thanks :) >> >>"A professional trader isolates himself from the herd and has trained himself >>to become a predator rather than a victim." - Tom Williams >> >>Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: tommy boy <[email protected]> >>Sender: [email protected] >>Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 19:29:51 >>To: <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain >> >>down grade nya udah dr kamis sore. bukan pas market tutup jumat. kamis >>downgrade, eropa tetap tutup hijau jumat. so santai aja. eropa aja gak >>kuatir, kok kita yg malah parno >>On Sat Oct 8th, 2011 9:16 AM ICT [email protected] wrote: >> >>>Maksud sy setelah market tutup tuh bukan market indonesia loh ya :) >>> >>>"A professional trader isolates himself from the herd and has trained >>>himself to become a predator rather than a victim." - Tom Williams >>> >>>Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: ahmad saharjo <[email protected]> >>>Sender: [email protected] >>>Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 09:50:14 >>>To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain >>> >>>justru pemain2 BEI yang seringkali latah dan panik sendirian, padahal bursa >>>eropa sendiri cuma turun tipis bahkan masih ada beberapa yang ijo >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>>From: Djoni <[email protected]> >>>To: [email protected] >>>Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:46 AM >>>Subject: Re: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain >>> >>> >>> >>>senin malam, uncle dow marah2. >>> >>> >>> >>>2011/10/8 Arya <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>>>Tapi sepertinya Ucle Dow gak begitu terpengaruh tuh...Cuma merah tipis. >>>> >>>>-Arya- >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>[email protected] >>>>Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:43 AM >>>>To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>Subject: [saham] Fitch downgrade Italy dan Spain >>>> >>>> >>>>Downgrade ini dilakukan setelah market tutup..hati2 senin :) >>>> >>>>"A professional trader isolates himself from the herd and has trained >>>>himself to become a predator rather than a victim." - Tom Williams >>>> >>>> >>>Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerryR smartphone >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------ >>>> >>>>Kunjungi situs http://www.info-saham.com untuk informasi seputar saham. >>>> >>>>SEMUA POSTING DI MILIS INI TANGGUNG JAWAB PENGIRIM EMAIL DAN BUKAN ADMIN >>>>MILIS. 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