Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -----Original Message----- From: Oguds <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:30:59 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [saham] Siapa bilang Amrik krisis?
Seperti perbincangan soal Freeport di sini, bukan tak mungkin banyak komisi gelap yg dinikmati AS. Semua orang tahu, niatan AS mencaplok Irak hanya buat menguras minyaknya, setidaknya agar prajurit dan kontraktornya punya kerjaan dan masukan. Akalnya memang busuk, ya tapi atas nama kepentingan negara, membunuh bangsa lain bisa diperbolehkan. Saat ini, kita tidak benar2 tahu, siapa melawan apa. Misalnya China, dia membiarkan mata uang Yuan lemah, dengan tujuan memenangi ekspor. AS sampai dibuat senewen gara2 ini. Seperti di milis ini pernah bilang, meski pertumbuhan China di Q1 2011 9.6%, kenapa bursanya malah jatuh? Barangkali, ini skenario tersendiri agar negara lain melihat ekonomi dia bermasalah, dan tidak membanjiri negaranya dengan investasi ataupun barang2 impor. Kalau kita cermati, benang merah di balik majunya ekonomi di Brazil, Rusia, India, China, dan Indonesia, tentulah besar penduduknya. Bukan sekedar SDA, tapi terutama adalah SDM. Barang dan jasa tidak bisa dijual, bila tidak ada yg membeli. Amerika dengan penduduk yg juga besar dan bertumbuh (imigran), seharusnya bisa terhindar dari krisis. Sebaliknya, inilah pangkal kejatuhan negara2 maju seperti Eropa, karena semakin sedikit yg bisa dijual di sana. Apalagi dengan kemajuan teknologi, demokrasi dan keterbukaan, semakin sulit mereka melakukan kolonialisme secara terbuka atau tertutup. Kalau menggunakan TA, kemapanan ibarat dengan konsolidasi, dengan pola lower high. Hingga pada akhirnya, jebollah garis support, krisis benar2 terjadi. Sunday, October 9, 2011, 1:17:33 AM, you wrote: dgc> Pendapat saya, masalah terbesar di amerika bukanlah hutangn melainkan pengangguran. dgc> Ingat kalau amerika kekurangan duit maka fed tinggal cetak dgc> dollar lagi. Tapi untuk menambah lapangan kerja? That's not easy job dgc> Apalagi pengangguran yang terjadi saat ini adalah pengangguran struktural. dgc> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® dgc> From: ANDIK MUSTIKA <[email protected]> dgc> Sender: [email protected] dgc> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:39:42 +0800 (SGT) dgc> To: <[email protected]> dgc> ReplyTo: [email protected] dgc> Subject: Re: [saham] Siapa bilang Amrik krisis? dgc> dgc> http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/06/is-the-fed-the-world%E2%80%99s-largest-fixed-income-hedge-fund/ dgc> kalau fed punya reksa dana ane beli dah, liat balance sheetnya... dgc> wong yang nyiptakan sitem ekonomi amerikA masak bisa kresis dgc> --- On Sat, 10/8/11, Musicallypso <[email protected]> wrote: dgc> From: Musicallypso <[email protected]> dgc> Subject: Re: [saham] Siapa bilang Amrik krisis? dgc> To: [email protected] dgc> Date: Saturday, October 8, 2011, 5:09 AM dgc> kan udh nambah limit utang.......jd ya ad tambahan uang dgc> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Bagya <[email protected]> wrote: dgc> dgc> == dgc> As U.S. troops leave Iraq, State Department ramps up dgc>  dgc> U.S. soldiers patrol outside Contingency Operating Site Taji, dgc> north of Baghdad. (Maya Alleruzzo/ASSOCIATED PRESS) dgc> Mary Beth Sheridan and Dan Zak dgc> Friday, Oct 7, 2011 dgc> The State Department is racing against an end-of-year deadline dgc> to take over Iraq operations from the U.S. military, throwing up dgc> buildings and marshalling contractors in its biggest overseas dgc> operation since the effort to rebuild Europe after World War II. dgc> While attention in Washington and Baghdad has centered on the dgc> number of U.S. troops that may remain in Iraq, they will be dgc> dwarfed by an estimated 16,000 civilians under the American dgc> ambassador — the size of an Army division. dgc> The scale of the operation has raised concerns among lawmakers dgc> and government watchdogs, who fear the State Department will be dgc> overwhelmed by overseeing so many people, about 80 percent of dgc> them contractors. There is a risk, they say, of millions of dgc> dollars in waste and limited supervision of bodyguards. dgc> “We’re very, very worried,” said Christopher H. Shays, a former dgc> Republican member of Congress who served on the Commission on dgc> Wartime Contracting, at a House hearing on Tuesday. “I don’t know how they’re going to do it.” dgc> State Department officials say they are working flat-out to dgc> finish their preparations, adding contracting professionals to dgc> prevent fraud and focusing on ensuring U.S. personnel will be protected. dgc> “We’ve spent too much money and lost too many kids’ lives, not dgc> to do this thing right,” said Deputy Secretary of State Tom Nides. dgc> But officials acknowledge they have never done anything quite dgc> like this. “Make no mistake, this is hard,” said Nides. dgc> There are currently 43,000 U.S. servicemembers in Iraq. Under an dgc> agreement negotiated by the George W. Bush administration, they dgc> are to leave by the end of 2011. dgc> Iraqi leaders Tuesday said they wanted a small contingent of dgc> U.S. military trainers to remain, but without immunity from local dgc> prosecution, a condition the Obama administration has said it dgc> cannot accept. The administration has been planning to keep 3,000 dgc> to 5,000 military trainers if the two sides can hammer out an agreement. dgc> The list of responsibilities the State Department will pick up dgc> from the military is daunting. It will have to provide security dgc> for the roughly 1,750 traditional embassy personnel — diplomats, dgc> aid workers, Treasury employees and so on — in a country that is dgc> still rocked by daily bombings and assassinations. dgc> To do so, State is contracting a security force of about 5,000. dgc> They will not only protect the Baghdad embassy but two dgc> consulates, a pair of support sites at Iraqi airports and three police-training facilities. dgc> The State Department will operate its own air service — the dgc> 46-aircraft Embassy Air Iraq — and its own hospitals, functions dgc> the U.S. military has been performing. About 4,600 contractors, dgc> mostly non-American, will provide cooking, cleaning, medical care dgc> and other services. Rounding out the civilian presence are about dgc> 4,600 people scattered over 10 or 11 sites where Iraqis will be dgc> instructed on how to use U.S. military equipment they’ve purchased. dgc> “This is not what State Department people train for, to run an dgc> operation of this size. Ever since 2003, they’ve been heavily dgc> reliant on U.S. military support,” said Max Boot, a national dgc> security expert at the Council on Foreign Relations. dgc> In its final report issued last month, the bipartisan Commission dgc> on Wartime Contracting said that billions of U.S. taxpayer dgc> dollars had been squandered in Iraq and Afghanistan, and charged dgc> that the State Department hadn’t made the necessary reforms in its contracting operation. dgc> “Therefore, significant additional waste — and mission dgc> degradation to the point of failure — can be expected as State dgc> continues with the daunting task of transition in Iraq,” it warned. dgc> State Department officials dispute that conclusion, saying they dgc> have hired dozens of extra contracting personnel and have gained dgc> experience in managing contractors in Iraq. dgc> Shays said he also worried that the State Department’s small dgc> security force will be stretched too thin to supervise armed dgc> contractors. He told the hearing he feared a repeat of the 2007 dgc> incident in which guards from the security firm then known as dgc> Blackwater opened fire at a Baghdad traffic circle, killing 17 Iraqi civilians. dgc> Stuart Bowen, the inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, dgc> said in an interview that the transition would have other costs. dgc> Without the military protection, U.S. government personnel will dgc> have limited reach throughout Iraq, he said. Already, the 1,200 dgc> personnel in the consulate in the southern city of Basra can’t dgc> adequately move around that region, he said. dgc> “In between this area and Baghdad, there will be a void” of dgc> diplomatic coverage, Bowen said. dgc> Nides emphasized that the State Department wasn’t trying to dgc> duplicate the military mission. dgc> “That’s not what the Iraqis want. Frankly that’s not what was dgc> agreed to” with the government in Baghdad, he said. Instead, the dgc> department was trying to transition to a diplomatic presence, he said. dgc> While the Iraq operation will be huge by State Department dgc> standards, it will still represent a significant scaling down dgc> from the military-led mission, which currently involves 50,000 dgc> defense contractors. And State Department officials say their use dgc> of contractors is expected to drop sharply over the next three dgc> years, as security improves in Iraq. dgc> Nides noted that the State Department planned to spend less than dgc> $6 billion in Iraq in 2012, compared to an outlay of about $50 dgc> billion by the military this year. dgc> “That’s a pretty good transition dividend,” he said. dgc> The State Department had originally planned a more ambitious dgc> network of consulates and police training sites, but cut back dgc> after failing to get enough funding from Congress. dgc> Its smaller footprint will be evident in the police training dgc> program, which will be run out of three locations in Iraq. In dgc> contrast, the U.S. military had training programs in every one of dgc> the country’s 18 provinces, said Maj. Gen. Jeffrey S. Buchanan, dgc> chief spokesman for U.S. forces in Iraq. dgc> “We had a partnership at a much lower level but I think [State dgc> will] bring a very needed expertise at a higher level, a more strategic level,” he said. dgc> The department’s inspector-general reported in May that there dgc> was a risk that some of the new embassy facilities — such as dgc> hospitals and housing — wouldn’t be ready by year’s end. dgc> A State Department official acknowledged housing construction dgc> will probably extend into 2012. But at least temporary dgc> accommodations will be ready by year’s end for 10,000 people at dgc> the Baghdad embassy, said the official, who was not authorized to dgc> comment on the record. There will be no need — as initially dgc> feared — to make people use beds in shifts. dgc> “We will have the basics for everyone,” he said. dgc> [email protected] dgc> [email protected] dgc> Zak reported from Baghdad. dgc> Thanks, dgc> Bagya dgc> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® dgc> -- Tertanda, Oguds [960000031]
