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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Linsam 12 <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Happy reading....
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> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/price-targets-are-stupid-2012-06-18
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> By Barry Randall
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> You've seen and heard them, those simple declarations by analysts
> professing to see the future: price targets. Here are a few recent ones:
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>    Goldman Sachs's price target for IBM IBM 
> +0.32%<http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/IBM?link=MW_story_quote> is
>    $223: "We reiterate our Buy rating and 12-month target price of $223. Our
>    price target continues to be based on a P/E multiple of 15X on our 2012 EPS
>    estimate of $15.09. Key risks include macro pressures on key segment
>    revenues and lower-than-expected share repurchases and dividend increases."
>    (from Goldman's May 20, 2012 'Hardware Download')
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>    Morgan Stanley's price target on Juniper NetworksJNPR 
> +0.67%<http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/JNPR?link=MW_story_quote> is
>    $25: "Lowering estimates and PT to $25 from $27 but reiterating OW on the
>    lower bar ahead of the seasonal capex turn (from June 13, 2012 analyst
>    note)."
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>    Piper Jaffray, employer of Apple AAPL 
> +0.28%<http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/AAPL?link=MW_story_quote> 
> axe
>    Gene Munster, thinks Apple is headed to $910, markedly higher than its
>    current price in the high $500s: "14x CY14E EPS of $65.14" (from Piper's
>    June 11, 2012 note discussing developments from Apple's World Wide
>    Developer Conference)
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> It's not enough to simply think a stock is a buy, sell or hold. Heck no.
> The analyst has to pinpoint exactly where (and sometimes even when) a stock
> will hit a particular price.
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> Am I alone in thinking that this is insane?
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> It's nuts for three reasons. The first reason is that it assumes the
> analyst (or pundit or strategist or whoever) cannot only predict the
> future, but also predict *how investors will feel about it* . Or put
> another way, the analyst is not only taking a crack at predicting a
> company's future earnings, but also the multiple that will be put on it.
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> But this is ridiculous, and examples abound showing why. Did the analysts
> covering, say, LinkedIn LNKD 
> +0.17%<http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/LNKD?link=MW_story_quote> ,
> take into account that the sudden post-IPO drop in demand for Facebook FB
> +1.60% <http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/FB?link=MW_story_quote> 
> would
> affect demand for LinkedIn, causing the price of LinkedIn shares to tumble
> precipitously? Having read a large amount of LinkedIn research, I'm
> qualified to tell you the answer: No, they didn't.
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> In fact, most of the analysts covering LinkedIn contemplated the exact
> opposite scenario: that any drop in Facebook's price would happen because
> its business model was weaker than LinkedIn's. In a zero-sum game,
> Facebook's loss would be LinkedIn's gain. In fact, the relative valuations
> (Facebook trading at a forward P/E ratio of 44 vs. 98 for LinkedIn), neatly
> demonstrated the analysts' confidence in LinkedIn. Confidence that proved
> to be unwise, as Facebook, LinkedIn, Zillow, Zynga and pretty much every
> Web 2.0 social media property declined sharply over the last month.
>
> In other words, whatever multiple that analysts were putting on shares of
> these companies didn't seem to account for the relationships among them.
> Like the fact that mutual funds and ETFs held multiple players in each
> class, making redemptions bad for all of them. Oops.
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> A second reason price targets are crazy is easier to grasp: the problem
> with predicting the future in general is... *all the things that will
> happen between now and the future.* Sure, analysts can roughly gauge a
> company's revenues and expenses, and through them its future earnings. And
> if nothing happens between now and the future, great. But lots of things do
> happen. Mergers. Product launches by competitors. Executive departures.
> Black Swan events - positive ones like the emergence of fracking and tragic
> ones like 9/11.
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> If we lived in a vacuum, all companies would hit their targets. But we
> don't.
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> The third and most important reason price targets are insane is that *the
> price of anything (stocks included) is determined by supply and demand* .
> Yet neither Street analysts nor the media make any attempt to gauge supply
> and demand when throwing out price targets.
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> How do you know that the stock you want to buy isn't being sold right now
> by some new portfolio manager at Fidelity, who's liquidating a seven %
> position held by her (fired) predecessor? She can sell at will because her
> performance won't start counting until she's got the portfolio where she
> wants it.
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> How can you be sure that stock you just shorted isn't being bought by some
> multi-billion-dollar hedge fund's "black box," whose algorithms are
> suddenly impressed by the changes in some obscure financial factor? You do
> know that more than 70% of all shares traded on equity exchanges in the
> U.S. are done so by high frequency traders, right? That means that supply
> and demand are essentially controlled by "investors" whose quantitative
> tools are not only unfathomable, but change continuously. Good luck with
> that.
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> The bottom line is that whether you're a trader or an investor, the future
> price of the stock you're thinking about buying is a mystery wrapped in an
> enigma wrapped in a price target. Short term price appreciation (or
> depreciation for short sellers) is going to occur for reasons related to
> supply and demand, two factors about which you have basically no knowledge.
> So be prepared for uncertainty, as you wait for your fundamental or
> technical analysis to play out.
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> Hopefully you get the picture now: never let some overconfident Wall
> Street analyst put your smiling face in the middle of a price target.
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> This commentary does not constitute individualized investment advice. The
> opinions offered herein are not personalized recommendations to buy, sell
> or hold securities.
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> DISCLOSURE: Barry Randall is long IBM, Z.
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