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From: Turadg Aleahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: moving the portal to google code - we need a new name
To: Rokham Sadeghnezhadfard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Jim Slotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Geoff Kwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carlos Celorrio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hiroki Terashima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Rokham, you may get more answers to your questions on the SAIL-Dev list.



On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Rokham Sadeghnezhadfard <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I totally agree with Turadg. If we want to make it the common portal, we
> definitely should see what the other groups think. It probably will take
> some time for them to be able to take a look at the code and figure out what
> they like in the portal and what not. It's not something that can be decided
> immediately. I would think given it took us a retreat to decide what goes
> into roolo, the portal probably asks for another retreat.
>
> So let's hear some ideas on what're some efficient ways to see what
> commonalities we need in the Sail Portal across the different groups and how
> we can go about achieving those goals?
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Turadg Aleahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> So it's got Pas stuff now, but you expect that it will have Pas stuff
>> refactored out so that eventually the "sailportal" project will have no Pas
>> stuff.  That seems fine, though there is a slight risk to appearing to other
>> SAIL participants that the "SAIL Portal" is basically for Pas.
>>
>> I know we'd like to have a common portal that is used outside of Pas.  But
>> for the sake of good governance of the SAIL software community, shouldn't
>> participants beside the Pas team have a say in what, if anything, gets
>> labeled "the SAIL Portal" ?
>>
>> Here's my position: If it's for Pas, then put "Pas" in the name.  If it's
>> for all of SAIL, then involve other key SAIL participants (Concord and SCY)
>> in the decision of what to call it and where to host it.  Maybe that's
>> already been done and I am unaware.
>>
>> Though while I was writing the above, the message from Tony came in so I
>> guess that's that.  After this next (expected) community expansion at ICLS,
>> I think we should revisit the matter of a governance model.
>>
>>
>> -t
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Rokham Sadeghnezhadfard <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> From my understanding what Jim said was the plan anyway. We were to treat
>>> pas portal as Sail's portal by extracting common features from TELS and
>>> co-developing it with the Berkley/European/Concord groups. Calling it
>>> sailportal would be a good start to make it the common code base where
>>> everyone knows about it too.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Jim Slotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i guess I'm thinking that if I do anythin with SAIL I'll probably be
>>>> using this portal.  I can't for the life of me imagine developing a new 
>>>> one,
>>>> and we want as wide a community as possible to develop toward it, including
>>>> the (very non-pas) europeans.
>>>> So - just calling it sailportal, short and sweet, makes most sense to
>>>> me, and let pas be a project that sits on top of it, with substantial
>>>> skewing of the configuration.
>>>>
>>>> But Jakob, Adam, and our group in Toronto, as well as (hopefully)
>>>> concord will all be running users and groups with no pas.  And I assume
>>>> they'll be using this portal - and we want them to help develop it, right?
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9-Jun-08, at 4:12 PM, Anthony Perritano wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i agree, That PAS should be mentioned. "SAIL Pas Portal for elearning"
>>>> as its description.
>>>> for apache license. would we have to change the license of SAIL core?
>>>> what is the incentive of using the apache license?
>>>>
>>>> -Tony
>>>>
>>>> On [Jun 9], at 12:37 PM, Turadg Aleahmad wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "sailportal" as the short name for "SAIL Portal" makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose this decision is already made, but I wonder whether "*SAIL*
>>>> Portal" is accurate?  Does this portal code work for all SAIL (e.g. 
>>>> anything
>>>> not Pas) stuff?
>>>>
>>>> If it is made for Pas, I'd suggest saying so.  The SAIL brand is
>>>> important, so perhaps the "SAIL Pas Portal".  Seems like SAIL could have
>>>> multiple different portals.
>>>>
>>>> LGPL is fine.  I lean towards more liberal licenses.  Have you
>>>> considered Apache?
>>>>
>>>> -t
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> we can't have spaces in the name. so SAIL Portal can't fly. and it must
>>>>> be lower case.
>>>>>
>>>>> we can still do:
>>>>>
>>>>> sailportal
>>>>>
>>>>> what license do we want?
>>>>>
>>>>> SAIL is LGPL
>>>>>
>>>>> ROOLO is GPL v3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>
>>>>> On [Jun 9], at 10:47 AM, Jim Slotta wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  i would favor SAIL Portal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9-Jun-08, at 1:22 PM, Anthony Perritano wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hiroki and i want to move the portal to google code. asap. In prep
>>>>>>> for ICLS. we can call it SAIL Portal or PAS Portal. or some other name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have any suggestions? names?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> its a portal for learning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Portal of Learning Objects (POLO)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rokham
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Rokham





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Rokham

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