Since that meeting, we've learned a lot about how our community works and the interests of the stakeholders have changed. Would people be interested in writing those down? Or should we just wait till we're next in the same room again?
>>> I would like to write these down, for history's sake-- I think we can learn a lot. I think that any decision that comes out of this for moving forward should be deferred until we meet, hopefully in person, like at a retreat we had in Toronto. Maybe this particular recent situation can help get us thinking: members of the SAIL community developed a portal in Java and want to share it with the rest of SAIL. While they are over half the developers, key SAIL contributors are not involved in that portal. How does it get named? Are their qualifications for being called "SAIL <whatever>"? Do we have an incubation period? Is it too early to introduce that formality? >>> Yes, this is something that I've been wondering for quite some time. If I recall correctly, I started calling the portal "SAIL Portal" during one of the SAIL-dev meetings and some people followed suit, but I doubt that everybody have really embraced it, as they did with, say, "SAIL-core". I've started seeing these formalities as something that we don't force down others' throats but either 1) we agree to it, like we did with OTrunk during the Toronto retreat, or 2) something that people come to accept over time. So in the case of the SAIL Portal, the SAIL community as a whole is still in the incubation period. But I don't feel the pressure to move the process forward. Hiroki On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Turadg Aleahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wow, I'm impressed you found that after these years. I had given up on > hope. > > It's interesting to see what's still applicable and what projections didn't > pan out (or have yet to pan out). > > Since that meeting, we've learned a lot about how our community works and > the interests of the stakeholders have changed. Would people be interested > in writing those down? Or should we just wait till we're next in the same > room again? > > I know Scott's paid a lot of attention to how other open-source communities > work, like Eclipse. Scott, could you add to that page a sketch of how > things would work if we adopted the Eclipse model? Or any other existing > model? > > Maybe this particular recent situation can help get us thinking: members of > the SAIL community developed a portal in Java and want to share it with the > rest of SAIL. While they are over half the developers, key SAIL > contributors are not involved in that portal. How does it get named? Are > their qualifications for being called "SAIL <whatever>"? Do we have an > incubation period? Is it too early to introduce that formality? > > trying to get a discussion rolling. > > -t > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Jim Slotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> On 9-Jun-08, at 6:01 PM, Turadg Aleahmad wrote: >> >> Though while I was writing the above, the message from Tony came in so I >>> guess that's that. After this next (expected) community expansion at ICLS, >>> I think we should revisit the matter of a governance model. >>> >> >> Was just cleaning out my hard drive to move over to new machine (Macbook >> AIR: Call "1-800-too-small") >> >> I found the July 06 minutes form our previous governance meeting. I added >> them to the SAIL wiki, although I'm afraid I didn't take perfect minutes... >> http://www.telscenter.org/confluence/display/SAIL/governance >> >> I remember at the end of that meeting there was some kind of vote that >> served to constitute a SAIL board consisting of one representative from each >> lab where SAIL was installed and being developed (berkeley, concord, toronto >> - although I guess now we would add twente?) Anyway, I would be happy to >> see this page expanded and revised before the utrecht dealio. >> >> j >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SAIL-Dev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/SAIL-Dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
