Once, Baba granted an interview to the Marxist editor of an Indian 
Newspaper. He spent two and a half hours with him and persuaded him of his 
error. The Marxist questioned Him about the methodology of His kind of 
‘revolution’ and Baba replied that He had none in the accepted organisational 
sense. His method is the simple one of transforming the inner individual 
through love, and the machinery used is co-operation and brotherhood induced by 
this kind of love.

            The editor then asked why He did not cure the ills of the world by 
His sankalpa to which Swami, as one would expect, replied that this kind of 
instant solution - without a prior spiritual transformation - would not work; 
the world would quickly revert to the present chaos. He also explained that the 
whole drama of creation with its karmic law (of cause and effect) would 
collapse.

            Pressed by the editor about the difficulties in persuading the rich 
of such a life of philosophy, Swami replied, “The rich can only come to Me on 
the basis of absolute equality. This is why at the ashram rich and the poor 
work together, eat, worship and sleep together, do menial tasks together, and 
share the common austerities of the ashram. There is absolutely no distinction. 
Yet, despite this, the wealthy come to Me in order to secure that peace of mind 
which physical comfort and power cannot give. I convert their minds and hearts 
to spiritual values and truths.”

            The rich cannot secure Swami’s grace without surrendering their 
materialistic outlook and self-serving attachments. He tells them, “Ego lives 
by getting and forgetting, love lives by giving and forgiving.” He changes 
their mental attitudes. He emphasises the need to live a life without desire, a 
desirelessness based on high thinking and frugal living, rather than a high 
material standard. He shows them that riches provide a fatal temptation, which 
is the source and the cause of human bondage.

            “Shed your luggage, ” He says, using one of His parables, “you will 
travel lighter.” It is not material but spiritual satisfaction that ultimately 
makes life worth living. And He points to the poor who are often spiriutally 
rich, and to the rich who are often spiritually paupers.

            During hisshort stay at Puttaparthi, the Marxist editor discovered 
to his amazement that the woman who swept the courtyard was a maharani, his 
personal attendant was an ex-magistrate and the interpreter during His 
interview was formerly India’s leading scientist, Dr S Bhagavantham!”
           
           
     


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