"Do your Duty with Detachment" 
June 21, 2002

Prof A.K. : Swami, but they say Jada (inert matter) and Chaitanya (energy). 
What is Jada then?


     
      Sri Sathya Sai in the portico of Sai Kulwant Hall, Prasanthi Nilayam 


Swami : Nothing in this world is Jada. Everything is full of Chaitanyam. This 
is nothing but energy. There is no matter. Everything is energy. Even the body, 
which is said to be inert, is full of energy. There is an intimate relationship 
between matter and energy. Clouds are formed out of water and these clouds 
become water again in the form of rain. Similar is the relationship between 
matter and energy. They are both interchangeable. For example, we have an egg 
from which a bird is born and vice-versa. It is the case with a seed and a 
tree, or a mother and child. All these keep changing. What is the reason for 
all these changes? In this world, everything is energy. There is no matter 
which is separate from energy. This energy is what is called Brahma. Everything 
is a combination of atoms. These are forms of Divine energy. Scientists make 
the mistake of differentiating between matter and energy. It is because of 
their mistaken notion. For example, the body derives its energy from food. This 
means that the food is not inert. It has energy. Because of the food, you 
become strong. So, energy is omnipresent. Even the atom has a lot of energy. 
There are many things that we cannot see. As we press our thumb onto the chair, 
lakhs of lives are being destroyed, though you cannot see them. Everywhere, 
there is this atomic energy, which is the same as Divine energy. To receive 
this energy, you don’t have to wait. You can see the form of this energy in a 
moment. You think it is difficult to have this vision and you undertake various 
methods of Japam (chanting), Pooja (worship), etc. In order to see your own 
form, you needn’t undertake all this. 


Prof A.K. : But Swami, I see my form.


Swami : Not only this form. The form is only one and it is everywhere. All are 
your forms. Concentrate for a second and you can see all forms everywhere. They 
keep changing like pictures on a cinema screen. Because of the speed, you think 
that the images are moving, walking, etc. But, there is no movement actually. 
When you cut your finger, it bleeds. As you lose a drop of blood, you lose many 
of your forms in a moment’s time. This is why you feel weak when you lose 
blood. Every drop has your form. Even the hairs have your form in them.


Prof A.K. : Swami, then where does detachment come in?


Swami : You say that this is your shirt. If it is torn, will you throw it out 
or keep it with you? You have used it for a long time. Now, there is no 
relationship between you and the torn shirt. If it is useful, you claim the 
shirt to be yours. This attachment is delusion. For example, you are going 
towards the hostel when it is pitch dark. On the way, you find a rope and 
mistake it to be a snake. You feel scared and fear comes in. Put on the torch 
and you will find the rope. All the time, it was the same rope. Only the 
feelings vary. Delusion is responsible for our fear. The body is only an 
instrument. Think thus and use it without getting attached to it. Do anything, 
but do it without being deluded. All these worldly pleasures are like passing 
clouds. Before marriage, there is no relation between the husband and the wife. 
After divorce, also there is no relation. All these relationships are like 
passing clouds. They are impermanent. Do your duty with detachment. Do not 
claim ownership of your body. The only owner is God.


Swami then retired, leaving one and all introspecting, after this enlightening 
session.


Source: Students with Sai: Conversations (2000-2004) 

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