Title: Future Product Feature
I'm still not convinced that using a database is any improvement over the current configuration.  I'm not sure what you mean about changing without stopping.  I make changes via the GUI all the time.  If you mean bulk changes via the host file then you are doing things that are outside of the scope of the product design and unsupported.  At that point you have to live with the situation.  If you want the config file stored on a highly available system what is wrong with a file share on a SAN or clustered server?  Why must it be SQL based?
 
I have a truly enterprise level system, HP Openview and Concord E-Health, that we spent well over 200k on between licenses and hardware.  For ~200.00 I get 80% of that functionality and don't have to babysit the system.  If you need more features and have money to spend then maybe another product is a better fit.
That isn't a slight of SA  but a reality check for your situation.  Forcing SA to fit your enviroment may be the best solution.
 
So far I have been very pleased at the additions Dirk has made to make SA more usable in my environment.  The testing being done with threading will make a huge difference for me.  However, I cannot forget that the core market for Servers Alive is the small and medium size networks.  Adding cost, complexity, and support issues to SA will move it out of that market unless Dirk is willing to maintain and support two different products and codebases.  Then we as a community can probably expect the level of support to decrease.  We can only expect Dirk and Woodstone to do so much. 
 
I'd like the level of support to remain the same and will stay the course with the incremental upgrade path the SA has been on.
 
 
-Kevin
 
 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D. Shook
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Future Product Feature

OK, I can't resist...
 
How many people would be willing to part with serious $$$ to have a version of SA that has NO (ZERO, NONE) of it's configuration or check data stored locally, but rather all stored in a SQL database (MSSQL, MySQL, etc....) with the checks read from the database every cycle? This would allow seperating the check processing from the check setup, giving people the option of changing without stopping.
 
I know my company would be willing to spend $$$ if we could have a truly Enterprise level version. We're having to look at competitors products because of the more advanced reporting of the checks, teams, on-call, alerting that are not available in SA v5. Also, the lack of ability to have the configuration on a highly available SQL Server is starting to be more and more of an issue.
 

Michael D. Shook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Future Product Feature

Well that's just an almost complete rewrite :-(
 

Dirk.

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vogl, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SA-list] Future Product Feature

Dirk,

We have had lots of discussion about SA here, and overall we love the product.  If we could ask for only one feature in future releases it would be this:

The separation of the SA check engine from the interface.  This way the engine could be started as a service and never touched while remote connections via Terminal Server, Citrix or whatever could load the interface for adds/changes to the config.

The interface could be compiled or web; based-doesn't matter.  But the current remote access issues make running in service mode challenging to work with SA in a "dark" or remote computer room. 

    Ie:  Remote connect to machine.  Stop SA Service.  Start new desktop copy.  Make Changes.  Save file.  Exit local copy.  Start SA service.



-Tom

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