You are almost correct.   The only way to do what he wants is to check 
the parent again before the Second knock attempts on the child 
entries.   This does not mean check the parent then 1 child  then check 
the parent and another child. 

Jason Passow
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Servers Alive Discussion List wrote:
> If the parent check would be down, then it would not check the childs or do
> the recheck on second knock.
> The way it works is that the parent is checked and if the parent is up then
> the childs are checked too.
> The only way to be able to do it the way you want it (or the way I
> understand that you want it), is that we would redo the parent EACH time a
> child needs to be checked.
>
> Example:
>
>       ping host
>               snmp_1 on host
>               snmp_2 on host
>               url_1 on host
>
> That would become
>       ping host
>               snmp_1 on host
>       ping host
>               snmp_2 on host
>       ping host
>               url_1 on host    
>
>
>
>
> Dirk Bulinckx. 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:41 PM
> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
> Subject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?
>
> Try to adjust the logic of the check dependencies to prevent this from
> happening.  Servers Alive is a great product, but it has it's limitations,
> and one often has to think a little for it.
>
> I do a lot of what I call "sanity" checks that have to work in order for my
> real checks to even be executed.  The sanity checks do not alert and their
> results are not output to web pages.  Most are pings.  I weave them into my
> check cycle to make sure that checks that require network or VPN
> connectivity to work, will not fail just because the connection is down.
>
> Servers Alive has a limitation where if it is in the middle of the of a
> series of checks on a server, that are being performed over say VPN, and the
> VPN goes down, all subsequent checks will fail.  If there are 25 checks of a
> server, and the VPN drops after check 3, that's 22 alerts going out.
>
> Even if you use the second knock feature, SA does not have the ability to
> realize "Hey the ping check that all these other's depend on is down, so I
> won't bother checking it's "child" checks."  Rather, it just re-checks all
> the checks that were flagged as down on the first pass, and if they are
> still down (which they will be because the underlying connection is still
> down) it fires the alerts.
>
> I resist the urge to jump on the "SA future features discussions" that seem
> to blossom on this list every 10 days, but if I could change on thing about
> Servers Alive, it would be it's ability on second knock to act based on the
> status of a parent check.
>
> In general:  do as few checks as you have to, and only alert when you have
> to.
>
> Also, consider purchasing more than one copy of SA, and run it locally on
> the server/LAN being checked.  This improves performance and reliability
> dramatically.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:25 AM
> To: Servers Alive Discussion List
> Subject: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?
>
> I am using SNPP to notify support personnel when a system's checks fail.
>
>
> I am going to build another SA system for a new facility with a dedicated
> paging server. 
>
> The catch is that the new configuration won't have the SA system separated
> from the paging server by the LAN, they will be attached with a crossover
> Ethernet cable on second NIC ports so the pages should never fail.
>
> So here's my question...  
>
> What if all LAN based checks fail (ping, NT services, etc.)? (i.e.
> because the SA host's primary nic / cable / switch port fails) The redundant
> network connection to the paging server will likely ensure that everyone
> will be paged because everything is down.  
>
> Can I tune something in SA to not take action or take a custom action if say
> 30% or more of the checks fail? ( I would rather send one page to myself
> saying ... "Hey, most of the checks have failed. The ServersAlive host may
> be wigging out!" )
>
> Thanks in advance! 
>
> Robert 
>
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