The good news is that you know it is NPP memory only.  The bad news is you have 
more to check with your next friendly tool Poolmon.exe ;0) 
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177415) 
 


 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: 28 January 2008 14:51
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Subject: RE: [SA-list] Memory Leak



Thanks for that Mark - it was very helpful, but the result was rather negative! 
To explain: I've added perfmon checks for NPP memory of all running processes, 
plus one for Memory - Pool Nonpaged Bytes. The latter increases steadily as 
mentioned in my original mail, but every other check remains constant 
(including Process - Pool Nonpaged Bytes, Total), which I don't quite 
understand. I know that Memory - NPP and Process - NPP are measured in 
different ways (because it says so on the "Explain" button), but I don't know 
how or why... 

So, in short, I can see that there is a problem with NPP memory, but I can't 
see a problem with NPP on any specific process (including, just for the record, 
Servers Alive). 

Any ideas? 

Ian 

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Sorry when you say "check" are you using the performance monitoring feature in 
Windows (perfmon)? 
  
Sorry if you alreay know this.... but 
  
That utility is your friend in cases like this, my suggestion would be to 
identify processes which are most likely to be the culprits e.g. will probably 
show as top memory hogs in taskmgr or in the command tasklist 
  
Then configure a perfmon to monitor the "pool paged bytes" and "pool non paged 
bytes" over a week and this should show which process or processes are growing 
in size. 
  
P.S. Is IIS running on this box?  You can check what services are running under 
a process with the following syntax "tasklist /svc",  IIS can be a beast and 
runs as inetinfo.exe 
  
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Good question. I've been monitoring overall NPP memory - I've now added a check 
looking at NPP memory in use by the SA process. If you know a better way of 
checking that, please let me know! 

Cheers, 

Ian 
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You mentioned a memory leak on your SA Box, is the leak with the salive 
Process? 
 
 
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Subject: [SA-list] Memory Leak


Folks, 

Is anyone else experiencing a memory leak on their SA box? We've just realised 
that we've got a steady NPP leak - just over 10Mb per week - which is the cause 
of some of the MRxSmb errors we've been having (and doubtless others). Don't 
know how long it's been going on for - at least since mid December. 

Currently running SA 6.1.2191, Win2K SP4. 

Cheers, 

Ian 

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