>Hello -
>
>I've just found out that there were 21 issues made of SAM2Sam. Which
>is a bit of a surprise.

Hang about... Sam2Sam was *your* magazine, wasn't it?? How can there be any
more issues than you know about, did you compile them in your sleep or
something?

>Any news on previous issues of FRED? Are they PD yet? If so, we
>should try and get them up on nvg.

I think issues 1 to 12 are up already. I doubt there are plans to upload
any more.

How do you mean, "PD yet?"? Copyright will not expire, as such, until 72[1]
years after the copyright-holder's death.

Yet, I suppose, if the copyright-holder declared FRED to be PD, then it
would be such. But that isn't as easy as it might sound, because I _think_
the authors of the individual programs are currently the copyright-holders,
and not Colin MacDonald or Persona the current owners. Then again,
IANAL.[3]

It's all a bit hazy - but certainly I didn't sign any sort of copyright
release when I submitted my programs to FRED. I'd assume I implicitly
granted permission for my program to distributed, for that month, on the
disk magazine, but I think the copyright on the program would still be
owned by me. If the magazine as a whole were distributed online, that might
be viewed as a violation of my copyright on my program. Personally of
course, I'd have no particular objection to that, but I can see why it
might cause problems.

[1] Or was it 75?[2]
[2] 50?
[3] I am not a numbe^H^H^H^H^H^H lawyer.

>And one other thing - why not start converting nvg files to .dsk
>format seeing as it is just as easy to use on a PC, and yet can also
>be back-written onto a SAM format disk.

Wouldn't that be nice? I was going to help convert the .TD0 files to .dsk
files myself, but unfortunately my plans were scotched by the relentless
march of technology. Of the 7 PCs on my corridor in college (4 people's
rooms...) not a single stupid one of them would run teledisk properly. So
there's nothing I can convert....

One other related thing... I know I've asked this before, but there's been
a bit of a rollover of list subscribers since then so maybe somone new can
help with this:

Did anyone buy (and still has a copy of) the "ILLUSION PD" disk from Sam
PD? I want to make it available online, but I no longer seem to have my
original copy and I can't remember exactly what I put on it (I think Derek
changed bits of it anyway - added a proper menu, and instructions and
things. I never really sent him a finished disk, just the accumulated
programs and bits of junk I'd never seen fit to use anywhere else)

>Just a few quick thoughts - this list is almost as dead as the
>computer it is supporting at the moment... ;-)

Dead?! Whimper... Are you sure it's not just pining for the fjords?

Andrew

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