>Being one of the first people on this list (and being able to claim that I >made the >first two postings to it!) it is becoming apparent that the list is filling >up with spam >and non-sam related postings. This also seems to the feeling of other list >subscribers >from what they've said to me so I have taken it apon myself to create >another mailing >list: > >The Sam Developer Forum > >This is a MODERATED mailing list for the needs of Sam Users and Developers >alike. To subscribe, see my webpage at http://www.quazar.clara.net/forum/ >for information. Although it is entitled The Sam Developer Forum it will >cater for all >sam users, and in a sensible no-nonsence manner.
No offense, but I really don't think that's a terribly good idea... Sam-users isn't a very high traffic list. It's not like subscribers get overrun with "spam and non-sam related postings" - in fact I can't recall ever seeing any spam on here. Nor are we really in the midst of long-overrunning flamewars, since Bob's clones [1] seem to be behaving at the moment... The truth is, there's really not a lot of genuine Sam discussion at the moment, because that isn't what is keeping the Sam alive. There's nothing about the technology of the machine that keeps me interested any more - the reason I still use my Sam at all is because of the people I associate with it, that is the sense of community which the Sam has been able to develop over the last ten years. The way to develop the community is to keep all the users (of genuine AND emulated machines) together - not to add a sterile list where anything but "certified clean discussion" would be frowned upon and have to get moved somewhere else, that way nearly anyone interested would just have to subscribe to both lists anyway. Much better to allow the discussion to develop in a natural environmant... Just my 0.02 Andrew [1] Not, I hasten to add, Bob Wilkinson who, having joined the list only recently, probably has no idea what I'm talking about and might get offended if he thought I were talking about him, which I'm not[2]. But another Bob. [2]Except in the footnote, obviously. -- -- Andrew Collier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- My other -- http://mnemotech.ucam.org -- .sig is a -- Part 3 Materials Science, Cambridge -- PDF file --

