The way I read it is that most of the 
people who think they own the rights to 
things actually do not - Bob was 
tripping out SAMCo Revelation titles 
for years without anybody picking him 
up no teh fact that he didn't actually 
have publishing rights for them.

You can all sit and bicker abotu who 
owns what and why certain copyrights 
should be protected, but unless there 
is action quickly to put software that 
no longer has commercial value (ie. 
anything before 1994 or so) then people 
who tinker around with WinCoupe will 
quickly move elsewhere. As good as the 
SAM is, without proper support from 
those of us who can offer it in the 
form of releasing games to the public 
domain, any new users recreuited via 
the emualtor will very soon dissapear.

The facts are these:

Nobody in the SAM scene save for Colin 
P and his new batch of software etc, is 
marketing SAM software. If I wanted to 
buy a game tomorrow I would not be able 
to.

Therefore, unless we start taking some 
risks and reasoning what is game for 
distribution this very small SAM scene 
will peter away into nothing. WOS 
started out by doing the very same 
thing - publish and be damned!

Most people who once owned or wrote for 
the SAM have moved on - it is only us 
who are stuck in the past - and 
probably don't care if 'Advanced Colour 
Clash Simulator' for the SAM still has 
a couple of sales left in them - if 
nobody knows who is marketing these 
things, then nobody is going to know 
where to get their royalties from.

So why not a compromise?

What's say that when we get around to 
getting this wonderful SAM Coupe 
website set up (and if somebody wants 
to grab the name www.samcoupe.co.uk 
then I recomend they get along to 
www.freenetname.co.uk and register it 
for nothing) we should have a download 
page, accessed only by password, and 
with the passwor dbeing given out after 
people have regiesterd. That way, if 
anybody does come back and claim they 
want royalties from a breach of 
copyright, we would be able to have 
efverybodies addresses to contact them 
and inform them that we were collecting 
for the programmer. A bit like selling 
the software, but only if the 
programmer asks for funds.

I know there are tonnes of flaws in 
this,and the usual assbandits will rip 
the idea to shreds, but at least it is 
throwing something into the arena so 
that we might try and get a few morte 
years out of a computer that has done 
so well for each and every one of us.

Oh, and this way we might also be able 
to distribute WinCoupe so that the 
people who wrote it get some sort of 
reward.

Go for your lives.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Andrew Collier
Sent: 29 April 2000 18:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Re- Response please


>Thank you Andrew and Wo from Womo-team 
for replying to me.
>
>(1) To Andrew. I guessed the situation 
regarding MasterDOS etc, but surely
>     Dr Andy Wright could clarify that 
situation.

He probably could, but I don't have a 
current address to contact him.

> Also why does no one quite Know if 
copyright belongs to them or not.

Because a lot of the contracts were 
made with SamCo, which went into
liquidation. IANAL, but as far as I'm 
aware the liquidator holds the
copyrights on the software unless it 
was bought by another company. The
rights are unlikely to have reverted to 
the authors.

So who bought the rights? Bob says he 
owns all the Revelation titles but I
am informed that this is not the true. 
In short, I don't know - but because
I'm not directly involved, I don't 
exactly have a case for finding out.

Just as complicated is the case of 
Persona. No-one seems to know what's
been going on with any of their 
software since the tragic death of 
Malcolm
MacKenzie, and that's over a year ago. 
I don't know anyone who's managed to
get a reply out of the family at all.

In this case, I do have a direct link 
though - Syncytium. My initial
(verbal) contract was with David 
Ledbury for Phoenix, but when Persona
started distributing Persona's software 
I was happy to go along with it. So
who has the right to distribute that 
software now? Probably not me, but on
the other hand it would be immensely 
hard to prove anything either way.

The reason I haven't put Syncytium on-
line so far is out of politeness.
Just on the off-chance that Persona do 
start trading again, I wouldn't like
to be accused of breaking my agreement. 
But I have to admit, that really is
looking increasingly unlikely. Maybe I 
can take the protection out and
upload a copy, if I have time.

I would *love* to see a WOS-like site 
devoted to Sam software, but without
someone who know more about who owns 
what, I don't think we'll ever see it
legally. Having said that, I'd be very 
willing to help with HTML, and
design, and such-and-such if people 
thought this project was feasible.

Andrew

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