Hi!

Unknown (?) wrote:

> I think I've come up with a fairly practical method of
> making it possible to run speccy 128 programs on the SAM...
Haven't I wrote about it several months ago?  ?:-|

> it involves a plug-in box which has a 32K ram, a z80, and
> a certain amount of logic (and perhaps a sound chip).
I would use a bit other things... Like 4MB RAM and 21MHz CPU
(switchable to 3.5MHz).

Also, I am able to write operating system to make use of such
hardware - loading "*.TAP" and "*.Z80" files, emulating some
disk extentions (TR-DOS, DISCiPLE, +D, Interface 1, TOS),
extending BASIC syntax, etc.


> The question is - is there any point pursuing it?
If it was not only ZX128 - yes. Look at my mail list -
"http://www.egroups.com/messages/zxvgs";, perhaps you find some
inspirations.

> It wouldn't be compatible with the +2a/+3.
That's OK.



Aley Keprt wrote:

> This sounds like a full ZX 128k. So I ask why to plug
> ZX128 as an interface, when you can get cheap original 128k?
To have disk interface and hardware multicolor screen mode, for
egzample.

> If this came in 1991, I loved it. But now [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry, in 1991 I didn't know how to contact other SAM users...
:(

> From my point of view, most of the people use emulators now,
> not real machines, especially not ZX Spectrums.
But from my point of view, I prefer to hear sound generated by
AY-3-8912 in real time than any emulation or record of it.



Unknown (?) wrote:

> When you say any point in pursuing it, do you mean to sell it?
> If so, then I doubt there is any point, to be entirely honest
> with you - unless it was very cheap.
Or being turbo board for SAM...



Unknown (?) wrote:

> It's a great idea - in principle - but there are quite a
> numbner of potential probs in doing it.
We are here (on Earth) to solve problems and realize our
dreams... ;)

> However, Its probably more easier to hack any unconverted
> Spectrum 128 titles to work on SAM!
Yes, but this divides users to two ghettos. In one are ZX128
users and in second SAM users. None of SAM users will write a
new program working ZX128, and SAM users must convert ZX128
programs to SAM. Each user group can find the other one as
worser.

Having ZX128 compatibility SAM users could make some programs
useable on ZX128 and cooperation could be closer.

(Please forgive the simplification.)



Aley Keprt wrote:

> But I am a programmer and I think nothing can be better than
> 100% emulation. Software only emulation.
Say, what emulators do? They simulate hardware. Say, what
hardware? Existing one. Existing hardware!

(I know about exceptions like SPEC256, but not much of them are
there.)


> This is like making a new human. We make the same machines
> using completely different technology. Software instead of
> hardware.
But I can faster solder e.g. 24E64 chip (8kB IIC memory) than
you write and test emulation of it.


> You'd better stop saying original hardware is better than
> emulation. I think emulation is much "hardcore", if you go
> deeper and deeper.
Emulation is good and hardware is good. However emulation
usually follows hardware solutions...

> Our technology isn't good enough to make software humans, so
> we try to make at least software Sams :)))
Software humans are not possible due to lack of the Aumakua
equivalent. ;)




David L wrote:

> Personally, I'd rather see a nice k/b interface :)
Why not make them together?




Aley Keprt wrote:

> I saw a very simple 48k solution. Just a ZX ROM and a button
> to turn it on. When you turn it on, you have nearly-real 48k
> Speccy with no emulation software needs. I don't like this
> solution, since you can't use disk access etc.
An additional piece of hardware is needed and ZXVGS to reach the
Heaven... ;)


--
Yarek.


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