> > From: Aley Keprt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >You probably missed the lessons I have at university.
>
> Yeah.. I spent to much time surfing the net...

I wanted to say 'had', not 'have'.

> >You probably don't think (as I do) that hi-level programming is generally
> >better than low-level programming,
> >which gives you faster code. But nowadays computers are fast enough to
run
> >on C++.
>
> You're right. I am a low-level programmer. I do admit that C++ DOES have
its
> uses... For a start, it's a lot easier writing Windows apps in C++ than it
> is in C. And I guess Smalltalk and Eiffle have there uses, somewhere,
too...

I'm talking about "real" applications - like internet explorer, netscape,
word, coreal draw, or games
(the laste one is my job).
No Eiffel or Smalltalk.
C++ is usable in real world, since it's very fast compared to others, and of
course, it's very similar to
assembler or C in many points, so people like C++ more than scientific
Smalltalk.

> I belong to the train of beleif that, if you write your code to work at a
> reasonable speed on a 5 year old computer, imagine how fast it would be on
> an up-to-date beastie! :)

What? I don't have 5 years old computer at work. If they would give me such
a shit, I leave instantly.

> >C++ is not for Sam.
> >At least since C++ compilers are MUCH MUCH slower than their C brothers.
>
> You're telling me! :)
> C++ seems to take forever to compile anything!
>
> Justin.

I hope you're just kidding.
C++ enshortens source code length, so the very large programs are easy to
keep.
And, of course, if we do object oriented design, we can easily implement it
using C++.
And combined with assembler, we get fast games, what we want, of course. ;-)

e.g. We have a very sophisticated 3D graphics engine written in high-level
C++ with lots of inheritance.
4 programmers have work on it for months already, and they've still not
finished completely.
Especially when using Windows' COM components which are naturally objective,
it's nice to have C++.
If they choose C instead of C++, they would be now somewhere in the hospital
(psychiatry).
And I would be unemployed.....
;-)


Aley


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