-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 03:53:05PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > >>So, what needs to change? >> >>FYI, these are the current packages we have in Mandrake cooker: >>$ rpm -q --specfile >>/mnt/buchanhome/bgmilne/downloads/source/cvs/mandrake/SPECS/samba/samba.spec >>samba-2.2.8a-5mdk >>samba-server-2.2.8a-5mdk >>samba-client-2.2.8a-5mdk >>samba-common-2.2.8a-5mdk >>samba-doc-2.2.8a-5mdk >>samba-swat-2.2.8a-5mdk >>samba-winbind-2.2.8a-5mdk >>nss_wins-2.2.8a-5mdk >>libsmbclient0-2.2.8a-5mdk >>libsmbclient0-devel-2.2.8a-5mdk >>libsmbclient0-static-devel-2.2.8a-5mdk > > > The main problem is that of separating the binaries out into > client and server packages. That way when someone only installs > the server package runs into problems that they ask us about > they don't have any of the tools needed to debug their problem. >
The main aim of splitting server from client is so that we can install the client tools without having another daemon running as root on a system by default (which is what we assume if the user installs samba-server, since otherwise they would normally not install it). If a user doesn't know how to find and install sofware on their system, they really need to go to a distro/os-specific ml before they configure samba. Really, if a user on Mandrake can't use the search tool in rpmdrake (or urpmf if they like the command line), they really should be considering whether they know enough to setup samba. Similar things could be said about apt-cache etc on Debian. > If the 'samba-server' package also included all the client > binaries as well that would fix most of the problems we have > about split packages. How about samba-server requiring samba-client (so that people can still install samba-client standalone for use with linnieghborhood, kio_smb, GNOME-VFS smb support, smbmount etc ...). I see Simo Sorce has the same suggestion. I will try it on cooker and see if anyone complains ... BTW, after seeing way too many users lost with an empty smb.conf (asking about features that are an uncomment away in our default smb.conf file), I really am considering making samba-swat an optional (ie not in the distro) in favour of something like ksambaplugin. SWAT causes way too many bad configurations, which require lots of assistance to fix, whereas a quick look in /etc/samba/smb.conf with a text editor of choice would usually get the user to a better solution than the one they were attempting with SWAT. Regards, Buchan - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+0564rJK6UGDSBKcRAiKOAJ42PwR29TjG7kGNkvbiGtYsUTUQiwCfVOWk ea/z2WewKP9paaE+JmBTCfU= =x+KV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ****************************************************************** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer. ******************************************************************
