If you have setup a new domain. You need to rejoin all clients to that domain? Or not?!
----------------------------------------------- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de ----------------------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Wikked One Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 19:16 An: gaiseric.van...@gmail.com Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] How to Force Domain Clients to use new PDC Thanks for the response I appreciate it! I haven't had any exposure to the NT4 Wins manager tool,I'll hunt around for it as far as querying the Wins servers I usually use NSLookup and I've look at the output of tdbdump. I'll be researching the samba4wins available parameters around midweek next week, (just in case there are any further developments or replies on this) during the weekend. I've got a 4 day weekend .....and I may not get to those config life parameters for Samba4wins till then. Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:14:26 -0500 From: gaiseric.van...@gmail.com To: wikk...@hotmail.com CC: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] How to Force Domain Clients to use new PDC You could try stopping the wins service, backing up and deleting the wins.tdb and wins.dat file, then starting the wins server again. (this is for the wins service from samba 3- I don't know how samba4wins handles this.) This should make sure that only the new PDC registers itself in the WINS db. Before you do so, you may want to look at the existing wins db. I don't remember if the wins.dat file is created from the wins.tdb file or the other way around. You can use the tdbdump command on a TDB file. The wins database should list whether a machine is a logon server or browser. I suspect your existing wins database still has entries for the old DC's. I don't know how lonh the WINS database will keep old entries- it could be for days or weeks. There is also a tdbedit command that you could use to try to edit the wins TBD file (if applicable.) the only reason you might want to use lmhosts on a machine is to verify, with a single machine, that the new PDC really can handle the authentication/login from a client PC. Can you use the NT4 Wins Manager tool to query your WINS server? On 02/17/12 08:17, Wikked One wrote: All systems are joined to the same domain and have the same SID,confirmed. I'm using the NT4 Server manager to look at status of all domain members, it displays the hierarchy of the domain, (I figure if an XP workstation (domain member,logged in as the domain admin) is picking up the change (it does indicate the change usually within 15 minutes of the BDC to PDC and vice versa). Workstations still report the old PDC when issuing an echo %logonserver% at the command line,which I understand from the old NT4 Server days,the BDC usually handles logon requests, but since I'm trying to make the shift to a TLS communication with the LDAP backend I stop the samba service on the non-TLS BDC and promote the BDC to PDC using the OS level and a couple other parameters. When it comes to the WINS servers,what I'm asking is IF I can make a change on them to recognize the new PDC faster by changing a parameter on them so that WINS "leases" (for lack of the parameter name at the moment) are refreshed and the new PDC recognize by all members of the domain faster? The two seem to be connected so if I can get WINS to distribute the new PDC to the rest of the domain faster..... The Domain wide recognition of the new PDC takes too long .... the Hosts (LMHOSTS) file is not a good option in this case.... > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:59:00 -0500 > From: gaiseric.van...@gmail.com > To: samba@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: [Samba] How to Force Domain Clients to use new PDC > > Are all DC's truly in the same domain? ("net getdomainsid" command > should show the same domain sid on all DC's.) Were the new servers > joined to the existing domain when setting up or did you just configure > the same domain name. > > What exactly are you using the NT4 server manager tool for? > > Presumably all samba DC's and clients are pointing to the same WINS > server. Windows machines by default will prefer to authenticate > against a BDC. You can try to change this by increasing the "announce > version" and "os level" parameters in the smb.conf file. The only way > to really force it is to NOT use wins and configure the client to use an > lmhosts file to find the DC. > > > > On 02/16/12 09:37, Wikked One wrote: > > > > > > Good Morning Samba Team, > > > > Weve been using Samba 3.4.8 and > > OpenLdap as an NT domain PDC for a number of years, running on CentOS 5.7 64 bit. In the > > meantime Ive been configuring other systems to use a multimaster OpenLdap > > backend and implement TLS. Obviously the > > first system does not communicate with the other 2 systems (now registered as > > BDC system on the same domain). > > > > I have imported the user,group and computer groups into the > > newer systems so that all password and user information is synchronized. > > > > We are also use Samba4Wins as our WINS server .. > > > > Now my question: I > > can promote the target system I want to as the PDC by making a few changes to > > the smb.conf as well as the config file on the current PDC. > > > > When I use the old NT4 server manager tool the domain change > > seems to take a few minutes to register, however many of the domain member > > client systems (almost exclusively Windows XP Pro) are failing to recognize the > > change and still use the old PDC to login. > > > > > > How can I force the client systems to recognize the new PDC > > ?Is this dependent on the WINS servers? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba