Nico Kadel-Garcia <[email protected]> schreibt: >On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Birgit Berger (UV Wien) ><[email protected]> wrote: >> sorry, to bother you again. >> >> I cannot join win7 or winXP clients to my samba domain sever located on >a >> debian server in a VE (openvz) unless I set up the server and clients to >> use WINS. But the recommendation is not to use WINS. openvz natively >uses >> venet. venet makes broadcasting impossible. >> >> I guess DNS is sufficient for name<->IP resolution but not for NetBios >> name<->IP resolution (it doesn' know name types and maybe that's why it >> cannot find DMB and logon server?) and that's why my win7 and winXP >> clients cannot join the domain. > >Why don't the netbios names match the DNS names? Is your VPN not >setting your default domain names?
the computer names are exactly the same as the names registered in DNS. e.g. >hostname PC5 the entry in DNS ist PC5.oeh.univie.ac.at so it should work. but it doesn't. windows 7 and windows xp computers cannot join the domain. (unless i set a WINS server in the tcp/ip settings on each client. Then they can join the domain and machine accounts are created.) Without WINS server set in the tcp/ip settings on each client I get the error message (see below), when I try to join the domain in Computer->Eigenschaften->Einstellungen ändern->Ändern->Domäne (where I type the domain name)->OK (The error message in win XP is exactly the same as the one in windows 7) Why does it necessarily ask for a WINS server? it should be possible without WINS server, shouldn't it? Or do I have to use WINS server when I user samba in a VE (openvz) with venet? And why DNS isn't enough for joining client machines to the domain? ================================ dcdiag.txt: Der Domänenname "OEH" ist möglicherweise ein NetBIOS-Domänenname. Sollte dies der Fall sein, stellen Sie sicher, dass der Name bei WINS registriert ist. Wenn Sie sicher sind, dass es sich nicht um einen NetBIOS-Domänennamen handelt, können folgende Informationen bei der Behandlung von Problemen mit der DNS-Konfiguration behilflich sein: Der folgende Fehler ist beim Abfragen von DNS über den Ressourceneintrag der Dienstidentifizierung (SRV) aufgetreten, der zur Suche eines Active Directory-Domänencontrollers für die Domäne "OEH" verwendet wird: Fehler: "Der DNS-Name ist nicht vorhanden." (Fehlercode 0x0000232B RCODE_NAME_ERROR) Es handelt sich um die Abfrage des Dienstidentifizierungseintrags (SRV) für _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.OEH. Häufigste Fehlerursachen: - Die zum Ermitteln eines Active Directory-Domänencontrollers (AD DC) erforderlichen DNS-SRV-Einträge wurden nicht in DNS registriert. Diese Einträge werden automatisch bei einem DNS-Server registriert, wenn ein Active Directory-Domänencontroller einer Domäne hinzugefügt wird. Die Einträge werden vom Active Directory-Domänencontroller zu festgelegten Intervallen aktualisiert. Dieser Computer wurde zum Verwenden von DNS-Servern mit den folgenden IP-Adressen konfiguriert: 131.130.1.12 131.130.1.11 - Mindestens eine der folgenden Zonen enthalten keine Delegierung zu dieser untergeordneten Zone: OEH . (die Stammzone) ================================== > > > >> So given my virtual server setup with openvz, do you rather suggest to >use >> WINS or to set up veth so I can use normal broadcasting? >> Or are there other ways to do name resolution with a samba server >> installed in a VE container which I oversaw. >> >> I'm a newbie and netbios name resolution is hard to understand. so I >would >> be very happy to get any suggestions from people already using samba >> server in an open vz container.... do you guys use venet or veth or do >you >> just activate WINS? >> >> birgit >> >> >> >> >> >> =========================== >> >> thank you Johannes. no, I don't really need WINS but it was the only >way I >> could join clients to the domain so far. so I activated it. DNS should >be >> available and working too. >> >> /etc/nsswitch.conf looks like this: >> hosts: files dns >> >> Can I use venet with samba or should I change to veth? >> >> regards, birgit >> >> >> >> Johannes Truschnigg <[email protected]> schreibt: >>>Hi Birgit, >>> >>>On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 01:38:32PM +0200, Birgit Berger (UV Wien) wrote: >>>> I'm new to the list. hopefully my question is correctly placed here... >>>> >>>> I'd installed my samba server 3.5.6 on debian squeeze in a openvz >>>> container that uses venet. I'd love to keep it that way but I'm not >sure >>>> if that is ok. Do you use samba server with venet or do I have to >change >>>> to veth? >>>> >>>> I already read >http://wiki.openvz.org/Differences_between_venet_and_veth >>>> and I don't want to intall shorewall in every container (VE). Also >venet >>>> seems easier to administrate and is faster. >>>> >>>> I read >>>> >>>http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/diagnosis.html >>>> and nmblookup (chapters 4,5,6 and 10) doesn't work. This is because of >>>> venet, I suppose. Because with venet broadcasting doesn't work. But >do I >>>> really need it for the Samba server or can I just use DNS (on other >>>> servers than the samba server) and WINS server (on the samba server)? >>>Can >>>> I stick to venet or should I use veth? >>> >>>Do you have clients on the network that you know absolutely require WINS >>>for >>>resolving names? (I'd actually have a hard time believing that, but who >>>knows...) Other than that, not having WINS but DNS as its modern and >>>sensible >>>replacement in working condition should be perfectly sufficient for your >>>day >>>to day Samba (and other networking) needs. I've been running Samba >without >>>nmbd enabled for a few years now (with Windows XP, Windows 7 and >>>GNU/Linux as >>>clients) and did not run into any problems becasue of that. >>> >>>Grüße aus und nach Wien ;) >>> >>>-- >>>with best regards: >>>- Johannes Truschnigg ( [email protected] ) >>> >>>www: http://johannes.truschnigg.info/ >>>phone: +43 650 2 133337 >>>xmpp: [email protected] >>> >>>Please do not bother me with HTML-email or attachments. Thank you. >> >> >> >> Johannes Truschnigg <[email protected]> schreibt: >>>Hello again, >>> >>>On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 02:28:24PM +0200, Birgit Berger (UV Wien) wrote: >>>> thank you Johannes. no, I don't really need WINS but it was the only >>>way I >>>> could join clients to the domain so far. so I activated it. DNS should >>>be >>>> available and working too. >>>> >>>> /etc/nsswitch.conf looks like this: >>>> hosts: files dns >>> >>>That's fine - you don't want anything reagrding winbind or WINS in >there, >>>since you don't have proper name resolution set up over that kind of >>>protocol/service. >>> >>>> Can I use venet with samba or should I change to veth? >>> >>>Just stick with what you got - vnet will be fine. >>> >>>Have a nice day! >>> >>>-- >>>with best regards: >>>- Johannes Truschnigg ( [email protected] ) >>> >>>www: http://johannes.truschnigg.info/ >>>phone: +43 650 2 133337 >>>xmpp: [email protected] >>> >>>Please do not bother me with HTML-email or attachments. Thank you. >> >> >> >> Birgit Berger >> >> EDV-Administratorin an der ÖH Uni Wien >> >> http://www.oeh.univie.ac.at/arbeitsbereiche/edv.html >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba > Birgit Berger EDV-Administratorin an der ÖH Uni Wien http://www.oeh.univie.ac.at/arbeitsbereiche/edv.html
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