The attitude of a lot of these ISP's is unfornately "If they pay their bill, then let 
them do what ever they want". IE the almighty buck calls the shots again. And some of 
these ISP's are so big that nobody dares to do anything about their attitude. In fact 
a lot of them simply charge their users more for handling additional megs of mail and 
so don't care what it contains or who it affects.

I say that the operators of a lot of these DNSBL's are really the "Good Guys" and 
should be supported as much as possible.

Dave Culbertson

On 21/Apr/2004 13:47:13, Danny Mallory wrote:
> Yeah, I would totally agree.. I assume they get a large number of complaints sent to 
> them but some of the newsgroup posting I read with their responses to complaints 
> didn't seem like they were doing much about it or even cared.. Basically comments 
> like, "Nothing we can do about it" and "We have no way to monitor for it".
> 
> Im sorry but I am in the security business and do lots of IDS work and I just don't 
> buy comments like this. I don't understand why ISPs can't put snort 
> boxes(opensource/free) in their egress points somewhere to catch those trying to 
> make x # of SMTP connections.. The average joe doesn't send messages to 1000's at a 
> time and if they do they can weed out the legit people and shut down the bad ones. 
> Or at least see them when we do :).
> 
> Danny
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> On 21/Apr/2004 10:58:47, Michael Grundmann  wrote:
> > Hello.
> > 
> > Danny Mallory wrote:
> > > In particular I would like to point out Deutsche Telekom
> > > AG in Germany.. Its really sad that more BLs have not listed them
> > > yet.. 
> > 
> > I guess that's not a good idea. Deutsche Telekom or their ISP
> > T-Online is the Provider with the most users in Europe.
> > In Germany 90% of broadband-connections are provided by Telekom.
> > That's why their are not blacklisted. You would cut off a large part
> > of the internet community.
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
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