At 10:51 27-10-01, you wrote:

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>Greetings,
>
>   Moti Landes
>   Department Manager
>   Network Management & Control Center
>   Barak ITC Israel
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Moti A. Landes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:28 PM
>Subject: [sambar] NT authentication problems
>
>
> > hi,
> > i have posted this a week ago, sorry to say that i did not get an answer
> > yet.
> > i am asking for some help - i really dont know what to do.
> > so here is the problem.
> >
> > i am working with NT authentication and .htaccess.
> > here is an example of an .htaccess file in one of the directories:
> > # bbipmon
> > AuthName        "IP Platform - NMCC Restricted Area"
> > AuthGroupFile c:/www/root/.htgroup

You're working with NTAuth and you're specifying a group file. So what should
Sambar do here??? NTAuth has it's own groups. What you're doing is overriding
NTAuth and expecting Sambar to take the alternate groups and but the NT
userbase. If it could do it, without bitching it would simply be 
surpressing loglines,
nothing else.

You started the whole idea incorrect:
-- NT Authentication has an extensive group/user permission layer, to grant 
users
and groups certain privileges
-- NT Auth _support_ in Sambar is provided, not because it allows you 'no 
password'
logins as you state below, but to integrate the existing structure into a 
webservices
environment. Similar to what Exchange/Outlook Webmail does with access to these
poor excuses for discussion groups that MS calls 'public folders'.

I'm just guessing here, but I think you needed the NT Auth perl script to 
write this
group file - so you're copying the existing strucure. Why not change you're 
NT Auth
domain?? I think that'll do the trick. I haven't used the NT Auth support, 
so I have
no idea how this works in Sambar and I must say that the documentation is a 
little
slim or I'm looking in the wrong places. Maybe somebody else here can 
clarify that
or Tod can update the docs.

So - what the real question here is:
"How can I use the Groups and Users from another NT Server or from the Domain
Controller?"

Anyone?

> > AuthType Basic
> > require group  nmccgroup engt nmccadmin ipgroup techsupp
> > require user mlandes
> >
> > remember i use NT authentication so no password file is needed.
> >
> > problem#1:    even before i put in the .htgroup (the list of users were in
> > the .htaccess file) i am seeing hundreds of
> >                      logs that look like this:
> >
> > [26/Oct/2001:15:13:13 +0200] NT Authentication: Logon denied for user
> > [26/Oct/2001:15:14:15 +0200] NT Authentication: Logon denied for user
> > [26/Oct/2001:15:15:19 +0200] NT Authentication: Logon denied for user
> > [26/Oct/2001:15:16:22 +0200] NT Authentication: Logon denied for user
> > [26/Oct/2001:15:17:27 +0200] NT Authentication: Logon denied for user
> > [26/Oct/2001:15:18:30 +0200] NT Authentication: Logon denied for user
> >
> > problem #2: since i put in the .htgroup file users that dial into the
> > company and try to access my server cant. only if i put there name in the
> > .htaccess specificaly (require user) instead of require group it work.
> > while in the company they can access freely (after username & password of
> > course) even if his name is only in the .htgroup file.

That sounds like too much NT Auth internals for me, apart from the fact that
the group file is causing problem number 1.
Sounds like Alex's expertise, to rephrase it:

"Do 'dial-in' users have a different NT Auth Domain or primary group then when
logged on locally?"


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