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Today's Topics:
1. A summary of dIrgha IkArAnta puMli~NgI types (Haresh Bakshi)
2. Purana source of 108 names of Ganesha (Girish Sharma)
3. prathamA ekavachana of proper names (Jay Vaidya)
4. sheshhe shete vishhNuH (Jay Vaidya)
5. Re: prathamA ekavachana of proper names (Vis Tekumalla)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:25:02 -0400
From: "Haresh Bakshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] A summary of dIrgha IkArAnta puMli~NgI types
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namaste, It seems that the forms of "papI' are the most regular in this
category. Some other types are represented by:
pradhI
sudhI [also shuddhadhI, paramadhI]
senAnI [also grAmaNI]
The forms of all three types listed above are "irregular" somewhat, and need
practice to master them.
Regards,
Haresh.
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>Haresh Bakshi jI : Thank you : the gandharva names are
>hAhA and hUhU -- no hIhI
>
>IkArAnta pulNli.nga forms change in the context of
>whether they end in a dhAtu, a "nadI" word, or have a
>gati-prefix.
>
>The context-free example of IkArAnta pulNli.nga I
>found in the laghukaumudI was papI (meaning sun).
>sukhI and sutI are slightly irregular; they should be
>used as context-free templates for words ending in
>-khI and -tI respectively.
>
>The forms are
>papIH papyau papyaH (he papIH) | 1 (sambhuddhi)
>papIm papyau papIn | 2
>papyA papIbhyAm papIbhiH | 3
>papye " papIbhyaH | 4
>papyaH " " | 5
>" papyoH papyAm | 6
>papI papyoH papIshhu | 7
>
>So the singular form of sAI (the holy man, awaiting
>our own Sai jI's clarification) are:
>
>sAIH (he sAIH) |1 (sambuddhi)| sAIm |2| sAyyA |3|
>sAyye |4| sAyyaH |5| sAyyaH |6| sAI |7|
>
>Vis Tekumalla gaaru has perceptive prescience: do
>notice that the saptamI form of the word is sAI !
>
>dhana.njayaH
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 17:29:03 -0700
From: "Girish Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Purana source of 108 names of Ganesha
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Which Purana does the 108 names of Ganesha that begin with Vinaayaka,
Vighnaraaja, Gauriiputra, . appear in? I checked in the Ganesha Purana
but did not find it.
Thank you.
Girish Sharma
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 08:10:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] prathamA ekavachana of proper names
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avadat sma sAyI yat kasyApi nAmnaH
prathamaikavacharUpam mUlabhAshhAvat shrAvyam |
eshhA tu mama sha.nkA mamaiva nAmavishhaye --
atra patrvyavahAre likhAmi mama nAma "dhana.njaya" iti
akArAntam |
vastutastu aha.m cha aptAshcha me tad uchcharAmaH
marAThIvyAkR^ita.m halanta.m dhana.njay.h iti | syAt -
manyAmahai tad akArAntam atra vishhaye parantu
marAThIbhAshhaka.m tat |
tathApi sa.nskR^ite ta.m likhAmi prathamaikavachane
supratyena sahita.m visargAntaH "dhana.njayaH" (iti) |
tat sAdhuriti manyante bhavantaH pa.nDitAH kim?
dhana.njayaH
--
Sai gaaru floated the idea that the prathamA
ekavachana of any name should sound like the original
language.
The following is a doubt I have about my own name:
In this correspondence I write my name in the a-ending
form "dhana.njaya". In fact, those close to me and I
pronounce it by Marathi grammatical rules to be
consonant ending, i.e., dhana.njay.h . Be that as it
may -- let us consider it to be a-ending, but as a
Marathi name.
All the same, in Sanskrit, I write it with the "su"
prataya, ending with a visarga as "dhana.njayaH". With
all my respect, do you think this is correct?
dhana.njaya
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 08:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] sheshhe shete vishhNuH
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dhr gaaru wrote:
> Yes, if this is Shirdi's saai baba. But if this is
> Vishnu, namely
> naagabhuuSaNa shaayi, or, sheSa talpa shaayi -
shayane -
> it is shaayi - and there is no elongation at end -
if
> it is not vocative.
> why you all elongate the end syllable, in either of
the
> case, is the doubt.
> elongation is in affectionate addressing.
> Then the cases applioed for daasharathi shall suit.
________________
shAyi
_________
There is a common form of the words with the Nini
(-in) ending:
sheshhashAyin (with forms sheshhashAyI,
sheshhashAyinau, etc.) It comes from:
sheshhe shete iti tachchhIlye
(He habitually sleeps on [the] serpent)
similarly for "nAgabhUshaNashAyin" etc.
What is the etymology of the word nAgabhUshaNashAyi
(-i ending)?
_____________
original dIrgha ending words in sa.nskR^ita
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In some languages, including sa.nskR^ita dIrgha ending
words (original, not vocative, dIrgha) are allowed.
Among pulNli.nga:
A-ending vishvapA (savior of the world)
I-ending papI (the sun)
U-ending hUhU (the gandharva)
o-ending go (bull)
Among strIli.nga, mAlA, nadI, vadhU, go, nau, etc.
No napu.nsanka word may end in a dIrgha vowel in
sa.nskR^ita -- if it etymologically ends in the dIrgha
it is grammatically shortened to hrasva. e.g., dvigu
(a group of two cows) was "dvigo" before obligatory
hrasva.
___________________
Affectionate vocatives may be shortened
______________________
I am not sure that elongation for vocatives is a
general rule in many languages.
in sa.nskR^ita sometimes the vocative is shortened!
devI -- he devi
In this affectionate marAthI example:
AI (mother) -- Ai ga (mother, O!)
__________
Elongation of vocatives
_________
In sa.nskR^ita vowels in vocatives may be
super-lengthened (to pluta length) only if calling
from a distance. This could be the last vowel or any
guru vowel of the name.
If calling devadatta from a long distance you could
say
(1) de3vadatta!
(or) (2) devadA3tta!
(or) (3) devadattA3!
(notice only three of the four vowels can be
lengthened, one at a time, the remaining one is a
laghu vowel)
I think this observation can be generalized to many
languages, even English.
dhana.njaya
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] prathamA ekavachana of proper names
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Jay Vaidya uvAcha:
All the same, in Sanskrit, I write it with the "su"
prataya, ending with a visarga as "dhana.njayaH". With
all my respect, do you think this is correct?
Yes, I think it is correct. Afterall, dhanu.njayaH is originally a name from a
Sanskrit work, one of the ten names of Arjuna in Mahabharata (Arjuna, Phalguna,
Paartha, Kireeti, svetavaahana, dhanunjaya, Vijaya, Bhebhatsa, Krishna, Savyasaachi).
Jay Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
avadat sma sAyI yat kasyApi nAmnaH
prathamaikavacharUpam mUlabhAshhAvat shrAvyam |
eshhA tu mama sha.nkA mamaiva nAmavishhaye --
atra patrvyavahAre likhAmi mama nAma "dhana.njaya" iti
akArAntam |
vastutastu aha.m cha aptAshcha me tad uchcharAmaH
marAThIvyAkR^ita.m halanta.m dhana.njay.h iti | syAt -
manyAmahai tad akArAntam atra vishhaye parantu
marAThIbhAshhaka.m tat |
tathApi sa.nskR^ite ta.m likhAmi prathamaikavachane
supratyena sahita.m visargAntaH "dhana.njayaH" (iti) |
tat sAdhuriti manyante bhavantaH pa.nDitAH kim?
dhana.njayaH
--
Sai gaaru floated the idea that the prathamA
ekavachana of any name should sound like the original
language.
The following is a doubt I have about my own name:
In this correspondence I write my name in the a-ending
form "dhana.njaya". In fact, those close to me and I
pronounce it by Marathi grammatical rules to be
consonant ending, i.e., dhana.njay.h . Be that as it
may -- let us consider it to be a-ending, but as a
Marathi name.
All the same, in Sanskrit, I write it with the "su"
prataya, ending with a visarga as "dhana.njayaH". With
all my respect, do you think this is correct?
dhana.njaya
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