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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: yati in toTaka vR^itta (Sai)
   2. RE: Re: yati in toTaka vR^itta (Haresh Bakshi)
   3. Re: Re: yati in toTaka vR^itta (peekayar)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:58:13 -0600
From: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Re: yati in toTaka vR^itta
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Dr. J. K. Mohan Rao uvaacha:
> For tOTaka vRtta, the breaks occur as eight and four, i.e., 
>     [IIU IIU II] [U IIU] 
> famous example: vEMkaTESa suprabhAtaM.

I looked for the rules regarding toTaka vRtta but didn't find such yati
rule. Here is the sutra for toTaka in vR^ittaratnAkara:
    iha toTakamambudhisaiH pramitam
The example given for toTaka in that book is,
    sa tatheti vineturudAramateH pratigR^ihya vacho visasarja munim |
                       ^                                ^
    tadalabdhapadaM hR^idi Sokadhane pratiyAtamivAntikamasya guroH ||
                           ^                           ^
which doesn't fully follow the 8-4 rule.
Even in ve~NkaTeSa suprabhAtam there are many toTaka Slokas where no such
yati split is followed. Examples:
    abhirAma guNAkara dASarathe jagadeka dhanurdhara dhIramate |
                      ^                              ^
    raghunAyaka rAma ramesa vibho varado bhava deva dayA jaladhe ||
                       ^                              ^
Also,
     ... vasudeva sutAnna paraM kalaye ||
                            ^
- Sai.

Dr. J. K. Mohan Rao uvaacha:
> >    aravinda praNItamidam Satakam    paripIDita bhAratamAtR^i ravam
> >    tamasAvR^ita chetasi vajrasamaM  nava jAgaraNAya prachodakaraM
> >
> For tOTaka vRtta, the breaks occur as eight and four, i.e., [IIU IIU II] 
> [U IIU]
> famous example: vEMkaTESa suprabhAtaM. The first and four donot exactly 
> follow
> this rule.  Otherwise, it looks okay to me.
> 
> >        indra vajraM         upendra vajraM
> >        ta  ta  ja ga ga     ja  ta  ja ga ga
> >        221 221 121 2 2      121 221 121 2 2
> >  
> >
> This metre is generally called upajAti, a mixture of two metres.  There are
> 14 ways of mixing the two.  There are individual names for these.  This 
> offers
> a fixture with a variety.  Kalidasa wrote whole cantos of this metre.
> 
> Regards!  -  J K  Mohana  Rao
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 12:55:36 -0400
From: "Haresh Bakshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Sanskrit] Re: yati in toTaka vR^itta
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namaste, this info on toTaka illustrates it by: vada 
toTakamabdhisakaarayutam | with yati-s shown as 6, 6.

Regards,
Haresh.


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>Dr. J. K. Mohan Rao uvaacha:
> > For tOTaka vRtta, the breaks occur as eight and four, i.e.,
> >     [IIU IIU II] [U IIU]
> > famous example: vEMkaTESa suprabhAtaM.
>
>I looked for the rules regarding toTaka vRtta but didn't find such yati
>rule. Here is the sutra for toTaka in vR^ittaratnAkara:
>     iha toTakamambudhisaiH pramitam
>The example given for toTaka in that book is,
>     sa tatheti vineturudAramateH pratigR^ihya vacho visasarja munim |
>                        ^                                ^
>     tadalabdhapadaM hR^idi Sokadhane pratiyAtamivAntikamasya guroH ||
>                            ^                           ^
>which doesn't fully follow the 8-4 rule.
>Even in ve~NkaTeSa suprabhAtam there are many toTaka Slokas where no such
>yati split is followed. Examples:
>     abhirAma guNAkara dASarathe jagadeka dhanurdhara dhIramate |
>                       ^                              ^
>     raghunAyaka rAma ramesa vibho varado bhava deva dayA jaladhe ||
>                        ^                              ^
>Also,
>      ... vasudeva sutAnna paraM kalaye ||
>                             ^
>- Sai.
>
>Dr. J. K. Mohan Rao uvaacha:
> > >    aravinda praNItamidam Satakam    paripIDita bhAratamAtR^i ravam
> > >    tamasAvR^ita chetasi vajrasamaM  nava jAgaraNAya prachodakaraM
> > >
> > For tOTaka vRtta, the breaks occur as eight and four, i.e., [IIU IIU II]
> > [U IIU]
> > famous example: vEMkaTESa suprabhAtaM. The first and four donot exactly
> > follow
> > this rule.  Otherwise, it looks okay to me.
> >
> > >        indra vajraM         upendra vajraM
> > >        ta  ta  ja ga ga     ja  ta  ja ga ga
> > >        221 221 121 2 2      121 221 121 2 2
> > >
> > >
> > This metre is generally called upajAti, a mixture of two metres.  There 
>are
> > 14 ways of mixing the two.  There are individual names for these.  This
> > offers
> > a fixture with a variety.  Kalidasa wrote whole cantos of this metre.
> >
> > Regards!  -  J K  Mohana  Rao
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:22:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Re: yati in toTaka vR^itta
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Apte has indicated yati at 4, 4 and 4 for totakam
 
He has quoted the same verse of Kalidasa.
 
Here ambudhi means 4.  It means 4 saganaas.
= 12 syllables. Does it also indicate yatis at 4?
 
In Kalidasa's shloka this does not fit in -
 
sa tatheti  -  vineturu-dAramateH 
pratigR^ihya  -vacho visa-sarja munim |
tadalabdha-padaM hR^idi - Sokadhane 
pratiyAta-mivAntika-masya guroH ||

Probably there is no yati for totakam.
 
PKRamakrishnan

Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dr. J. K. Mohan Rao uvaacha:
> For tOTaka vRtta, the breaks occur as eight and four, i.e., 
> [IIU IIU II] [U IIU] 
> famous example: vEMkaTESa suprabhAtaM.

I looked for the rules regarding toTaka vRtta but didn't find such yati
rule. Here is the sutra for toTaka in vR^ittaratnAkara:


iha toTakamambudhisaiH pramitam
The example given for toTaka in that book is,


sa tatheti vineturudAramateH pratigR^ihya vacho visasarja munim |
^ ^
tadalabdhapadaM hR^idi Sokadhane pratiyAtamivAntikamasya guroH ||
^ ^
which doesn't fully follow the 8-4 rule.
Even in ve~NkaTeSa suprabhAtam there are many toTaka Slokas where no such
yati split is followed. Examples:
abhirAma guNAkara dASarathe jagadeka dhanurdhara dhIramate |
^ ^
raghunAyaka rAma ramesa vibho varado bhava deva dayA jaladhe ||
^ ^
Also,
... vasudeva sutAnna paraM kalaye ||
^
- Sai.

Dr. J. K. Mohan Rao uvaacha:
> > aravinda praNItamidam Satakam paripIDita bhAratamAtR^i ravam
> > tamasAvR^ita chetasi vajrasamaM nava jAgaraNAya prachodakaraM
> >
> For tOTaka vRtta, the breaks occur as eight and four, i.e., [IIU IIU II] 
> [U IIU]
> famous example: vEMkaTESa suprabhAtaM. The first and four donot exactly 
> follow
> this rule. Otherwise, it looks okay to me.
> 
> > indra vajraM upendra vajraM
> > ta ta ja ga ga ja ta ja ga ga
> > 221 221 121 2 2 121 221 121 2 2
> > 
> >
> This metre is generally called upajAti, a mixture of two metres. There are
> 14 ways of mixing the two. There are individual names for these. This 
> offers
> a fixture with a variety. Kalidasa wrote whole cantos of this metre.
> 
> Regards! - J K Mohana Rao
> _______________________________________________
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