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   1. Re: Re: Vedic question (Ambujam Raman)
   2. Re: anusvaara sandhi (Ambujam Raman)
   3. Re: Re: Vedic question (Vis Tekumalla)
   4. Re: Re: Vedic question (Vis Tekumalla)
   5. Re: Re: Vedic question (peekayar)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:24:20 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Re: Vedic question
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So, in re the famous story, "mo'dake'na maa'm taaDaya" would have left 
paaNini and his contemporaries puzzled, at least for a while. They would 
have said "maa' modake'na tiitaDiiH"

Nath Rao

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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:34:55 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] anusvaara sandhi
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Next : >> idam mama bharyaayaa 'email'! << anyaayam - sorry madam, we thought it is 
you. 

Apology accepted. It will be ' a nyaayam' as long as my ' bharthaa' (?) speaks just 
for himself!

Ambujam(Srimati)
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 05:55:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Re: Vedic question
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I think Mr. Rao is quoting from a famous story about a Satavahana emperor. I don't 
remember all the details, but it goes somewhat like this:
 
There was this Satavahana emperor (Satavahanas were Andhra kings who ruled a major 
part of India from about 2nd century B.C, i.e., after the fall of the Mauryan empire, 
to about 5th century A.D. Well, some of my Maharashtrian friends contend they were 
Maharashtrian:-). Anyway, there was this one king in that line who was illiterate well 
into his adulthood. I believe it was Gautami-putra-Shri-SaatakarNi or 
VaSishta-putra-Shri-Pulameyi.
 
Once he was sloshing in the pool with his queen, he got a little excited and 
aggressive and his play with water got a little vigorous and the queen was getting 
breathless. She pleaded with him in the language that came to her naturally, sanskrit, 
and she said it fast--- 
 
"hey raajan! maa udake na taaDaya" (Oh! king don't hit me in water)
 
And the king thought she was saying - "hey raajan! modakena taaDaya." (Oh! hit me with 
modakas, that will be more kinky)
 
Sure enough, he ordered some nice hard modakas (those little idli-like things you 
offer as prasadam to Ganesh), and started pelting his queen with them.
 
She called him an idiot, and his mom corroborated her statement. Then he got inspired 
to learn, and became a great scholar in Sanskrit within a few years of hard work.     

Ambujam Raman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, in re the famous story, "mo'dake'na maa'm taaDaya" would have left 
paaNini and his contemporaries puzzled, at least for a while. They would 
have said "maa' modake'na tiitaDiiH"

Nath Rao

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 06:32:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Re: Vedic question
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Or, was it - "maa udakena taaDaya"

Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think Mr. Rao is quoting from a famous story 
about a Satavahana emperor. I don't remember all the details, but it goes somewhat 
like this:
 
There was this Satavahana emperor (Satavahanas were Andhra kings who ruled a major 
part of India from about 2nd century B.C, i.e., after the fall of the Mauryan empire, 
to about 5th century A.D. Well, some of my Maharashtrian friends contend they were 
Maharashtrian:-). Anyway, there was this one king in that line who was illiterate well 
into his adulthood. I believe it was Gautami-putra-Shri-SaatakarNi or 
VaSishta-putra-Shri-Pulameyi.
 
Once he was sloshing in the pool with his queen, he got a little excited and 
aggressive and his play with water got a little vigorous and the queen was getting 
breathless. She pleaded with him in the language that came to her naturally, sanskrit, 
and she said it fast--- 
 
"hey raajan! maa udake na taaDaya" (Oh! king don't hit me in water)
 
And the king thought she was saying - "hey raajan! modakena taaDaya." (Oh! hit me with 
modakas, that will be more kinky)
 
Sure enough, he ordered some nice hard modakas (those little idli-like things you 
offer as prasadam to Ganesh), and started pelting his queen with them.
 
She called him an idiot, and his mom corroborated her statement. Then he got inspired 
to learn, and became a great scholar in Sanskrit within a few years of hard work.     

Ambujam Raman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, in re the famous story, "mo'dake'na maa'm taaDaya" would have left 
paaNini and his contemporaries puzzled, at least for a while. They would 
have said "maa' modake'na tiitaDiiH"

Nath Rao

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Raman

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Re: Vedic question
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Vis Tekumalla says -
 
"he ordered some nice hard modakas".
 
Here there appears to be some grammatical 
inappropriateness.  moDakena is singular. Why did he order several of them.  
 
I have heard the some story in a different form. Some ladies were taking bath in  a 
river. One of them started pelting waters by the hand on the other.  The other lady 
said "moDakaistaaDaya".  She meant - "maa udakaih taadaya".   Don't strike me with 
waters.  
Next day the first lady came with a lot of modakaas.
Then the second lady explained to her the intended meaning. 
 
The phrase "maa uDakena thaaDaya" appears to be a bit open trick to get to the two 
meanings of maa - one "me" and the other "don't".  But "moDakaih" appears to be a bit 
more contrived. 
 
All these are but stories invented to inform grammatical peculiarities in Sanskrit.
 
P.K.Ramakrishnan
 

Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Or, was it - "maa udakena taaDaya"

Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think Mr. Rao is quoting from a famous 
story about a Satavahana emperor. I don't remember all the details, but it goes 
somewhat like this:
 
There was this Satavahana emperor (Satavahanas were Andhra kings who ruled a major 
part of India from about 2nd century B.C, i.e., after the fall of the Mauryan empire, 
to about 5th century A.D. Well, some of my Maharashtrian friends contend they were 
Maharashtrian:-). Anyway, there was this one king in that line who was illiterate well 
into his adulthood. I believe it was Gautami-putra-Shri-SaatakarNi or 
VaSishta-putra-Shri-Pulameyi.
 
Once he was sloshing in the pool with his queen, he got a little excited and 
aggressive and his play with water got a little vigorous and the queen was getting 
breathless. She pleaded with him in the language that came to her naturally, sanskrit, 
and she said it fast--- 
 
"hey raajan! maa udake na taaDaya" (Oh! king don't hit me in water)
 
And the king thought she was saying - "hey raajan! modakena taaDaya." (Oh! hit me with 
modakas, that will be more kinky)
 
Sure enough, he ordered some nice hard modakas (those little idli-like things you 
offer as prasadam to Ganesh), and started pelting his queen with them.
 
She called him an idiot, and his mom corroborated her statement. Then he got inspired 
to learn, and became a great scholar in Sanskrit within a few years of hard work.     

Ambujam Raman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, in re the famous story, "mo'dake'na maa'm taaDaya" would have left 
paaNini and his contemporaries puzzled, at least for a while. They would 
have said "maa' modake'na tiitaDiiH"

Nath Rao

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Raman

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