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1. Re: Request for Explanation (Ambujam Raman)
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3. Re: Request for Explanation (Sai)
4. Re: Request for Explanation (Ambujam Raman)
5. Siitaa-raavaNa-samvaada-jhari - an Introduction (peekayar)
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:10:22 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Request for Explanation
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For the vedantic meaning, we have
guNavR^iddhi pare = beyond qualities or change (increase)
yasmin pratyaye (ca) aatmake na eva staH = one in whom proof and self-discovery are
not present (i.e., one who cannot be discovered through logical or intuitive analysis)
budheShu sat iti khyAtaM = Among wise known as 'always exists'
tad brahma samupAsmahe.= that Absolute we meditate.
Now the grammarian analysis:
guNavR^iddhi pare = Beyond the grammatical rules of 'guNa' and 'v^Riddhi' ( this
refers to the letters 'a' and 'u'
yasmin pratyayAtmake na eva staH= in which the suffix (pratyaya) are (dual is used
to indicate the two letters 'a' and 'u') not present. ('oM' is not derived using
grammatical rules the 'M' is not a pratyaya of 'a' and 'u'.)
budheShu saditi khyAtaM = Among the wise it is known as 'as is' (or as an avyayam???)
tad brahma samupAsmahe = that Truth we investigate
In other words the grammatical analysis focuses on the particle 'oM' (analyzed as
a+u+M) which is an avyaya and has special grammatical rules (eg., Panini 6.1.95 etc)
Raman
I was unable to locate any Panini sutra relating to 'sat^R' or 'sanch'. Perhaps
someone can help!
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:19:59 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The relevant shloka is RaghuvaMsha 12th sargaM 58th shloka:
na hatvaa vaalinaM viirastatpade cirakaaMxite |
dhaatoH sthaana ivaadeshaM sannyaveshayat ||
That hero (Rama) having killed Vali in his place well placed long-loved (sugriva)
like an aadesha in the place of a dhatu.
Raman
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:25:14 -0600
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Ambujam Raman uvaacha:
> The relevant shloka is RaghuvaMsha 12th sargaM 58th shloka:
>
> na hatvaa vaalinaM viirastatpade cirakaaMxite |
^^ sa??
> dhaatoH sthaana ivaadeshaM sannyaveshayat ||
There is something missing in the fourth pAda for anuShTup.
- Sai.
>
> That hero (Rama) having killed Vali in his place well placed long-loved (sugriva)
> like an aadesha in the place of a dhatu.
>
> Raman
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:28:45 -0400
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kshamyataaM!
*sa* hatvaa vaalinaM viirastatpade cirakaaMxite |
dhaatoH sthaana ivaadeshaM *sugriivaM* sannyaveshayat ||
bhavadiiya
Raman
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> Ambujam Raman uvaacha:
> > The relevant shloka is RaghuvaMsha 12th sargaM 58th shloka:
> >
> > na hatvaa vaalinaM viirastatpade cirakaaMxite |
> ^^ sa??
> > dhaatoH sthaana ivaadeshaM sannyaveshayat ||
>
> There is something missing in the fourth pAda for anuShTup.
> - Sai.
>
> >
> > That hero (Rama) having killed Vali in his place well placed long-loved
(sugriva) like an aadesha in the place of a dhatu.
> >
> > Raman
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:26:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Siitaa-raavaNa-samvaada-jhari - an Introduction
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By R. Narasimhachar
It was with great pleasure that I heard read out to me a charming Sanskrit poem
composed by the well-known poet, Pandit Chamarajanagar Rama Sastri. The poem is in the
form of a dialogue between Ravana and Sita. Each verse has two meanings - one plain
and the other hidden. The epithets which Ravana is made to use either in praise of
himself or in disparagement of Rama are such as give a contrary meaning by the
addition, removal or substitution of a letter. The change to be made is very
ingeniously indicated in the last line of each verse containing Sita's reply which
outwardly expresses in a natural manner her indignation. It is gratifying to note
that though the poet writes under self imposed restrictions, his verses are smooth and
elegant. The poem bears ample testimony not only to the poetical skill and ingenuity
of the authour but also the singular flexibility of the Sanskrit Language. I trust
that the work will be duly appreciated.
R.NARASIMHACHAR,
Govt. Translator,
Mysore 10th Feb. 1899
The authour himself has given the commentary for this. He declares himself as the
aakhyaataa and vyaakhyaataa. There are 16 introductory verses leading to the
conversation between Sita and Ravana which is likened to a jharii meaning cascade.
There are 50 such verses. Barring he first vandanaashloka the next 15 verses give a
historical type of introduction. Since there is no puzzle in these I am just
reproducing them for the benefit of the members.
PKRamakrishnan
2.
arthapuSTyavinaabhuutashabdachitraatidurghaTaa .
siitaaraavaNasaMvaadajhariiti grathyate kR^itiH ..
AwRpuò(ivnaÉUtzBdicÇaitÊ"Rqa,
sItarav[s<vadHrIit ¢Wyte k«it>.
3
puraa raame shriimatyavanipa-nideshena vasudhaa-
sutaa-soumitribhyaaM saha vipinagarbhe nivasati .
duraatmaa la~Nakesho janaka-tanayaaM chadmavidhinaa
grihiitvaa lankaayaa vipadamiva muurtaaM gR^ihamagaat (shikhariNii)
pura rame ïImTyvinpindezen vsuxa-
sutasaeimiÇ_ya< sh ivipngÉeR invsit,
ÊraTma l'kezae jnktnya< DÒivixna
i¢hITva lNkaya ivpdimv mUta¡ g&hmgat! izoir[I
4
niveshyodyAne svaalaya-parisarasthe rahasi taaM
tadiiyaM saundaryaM niratishayam-aalokya cha muhuH .
sa kaamii svasmintaaM kathamapi saraagaaM raghupatau
viraagaM ca shriimatyapi kalayituM yatnamakarot .. (shikhariNii)
inveZyae*ane Svaly-pirsrSwe rhis ta<
tdIy< saENdy¡ inritzym!-AalaeKy c mu÷>,
s kamI SviSmNta< kwmip sraga< r"uptaE
ivrag< c ïImTyip kliytu< yÆmkraet!. izoir[I
5
etasminnantare nirjanakajamuTajaM viikSya saMshochataa taaM
anveSTuM saanujenaadhyaTavi vicharataa$vaaptapampaataTena .
raameNa praapitasya shriyaminatanayasyaaj~nayottiirNavaardhiH
la~NkaaaaM gatvaa~njaneyo janakaduhituraavaasavR^ikSaagragobhuut .. (sragdharaa)
@tiSmÚNtre injRnkjmuqj< vIúy s<zaecta ta<
ANveòu< sanujenaXyqiv ivcrtavaÝpMpatqen,
rame[ àaiptSy iïyimntnySya}yaeÄI[RvaixR>
l»a< gTvaÃneyae jnkÊihturavasv&]a¢gaeÉUt!. öGxra
6
tadaaniiM nirnidro rajanicharamaaMshe dashamukhaH
smaarartassiitaayaassavidhamupayaato "mama vashe .
iyaM syaadevaM chet " iti shubhaguNaanaatmani mR^iSaa
mR^iSaa doSaanaaha sma cha muhuranekaanraghupatau .. (shikhariNii)
tdanI— ininRÔae rjincrma<ze dzmuo>
SmartRSsItayaSsivxmupyatae mm vze,
#y< Syadev< cet! #it zuÉgu[anaTmin m&;a
m&;a dae;anah Sm c mu÷rnekaÜ"uptaE . izoir[I
7
saadhvaaSSidgamabhikrudhaa prativacho yaadR^ik kSamaM taadR^ishIIM
pratyuktiM vishadaarthikaaM janakajaa$khyaantII tadabhyantare .
arthenaatiniguuhitena sakalaaM tasyoktimarthaantaraM
ninye yasya sa veditaa yadi punarhriiNo na kiMchidvadet .. (shaarduulavikriiDitaM)
saXvai:;Ìmiɳ…xa àitvcae ya†kœ ]m< ta†zI—
àTyui´< ivzdaiwRka< jnkjaOyaNtI td_yNtre,
AweRnaitingUihten skla< tSyaei´mwaRNtr<
inNye ySy s veidta yid punÿIR[ae n ik<icÖdet!. zaËRliv³Iift
8
tadaj~naanaattasminnaviratavivakSe sati punaH -
punaH paulastye saa janakatanayaa$tiiva kupitaa .
sphuTosya svoktyaiva svayamabhibhavo$stvityati
parisphuuTiikR^ityaivaarthaM katichana jagaada pratigiraH .. (shikhariNii)
td}anaÄiSmÚivrtivv]e sit pun> -
pun> paElSTye sa jnktnyatIv k…ipta,
S)…qaeSy Svae®yEv SvymiÉÉvaeiSTvTyit
pirS)ªqIk«TyEvaw¡ kitcn jgad àitigr>. izoir[I
9
tayostaM saMvaadaM tarushirasi liitvaa nishamayan
hanuumaan vaidehyaaH prativachanato$tyantamuditaH .
prayaate paulastye nijavachanabha~Nagaat saruSi taaM
samaashvaasya trastaaM drutataramupaagaadraghupatiM .. (shikhariNii)
tyaeSt< s<vad< téizris lITva inzmyn!
hnUman! vEdeýa> àitvcntaeTyNtmuidt>,
àyate paElSTye injvcnÉ'gat! séi; ta<
smañaSy ÇSta< Ô‚ttrmupagaÔ"upit<. izoir[I
10
natvotthaaya kR^itaa~njalauu hanumati tvatpreyasii deva devi-
aikSi kSemavatii dashaasyasadanodyaanadrumaadho bhuvi .
ityaavedayati priyaa kathaM mama kathaMshiilassa rakSodhamaH
kiMvR^ittaH kathayeti taM raghupatiH papracCha vaataatmajam .. shaarduulavikriiDitaM
nTvaeTway k«taÃlaE hnumit TvTàeysI dev deiv-
@ei] ]emvtI dzaSysdnae*anÔ‚maxae Éuiv,
#Tyavedyit iàya kw< mm kw<zIlSs r]aexm>
ik<v&Ä> kwyeit t< r"upit> pàCD vataTmjm!. zaËRliv³Iift
11
sa cha shriiraamachandreNa paripR^iSTonilaatmajaH .
vyajij~napatkimuktena bahunaa raghupu~Nagava ..
s c ïIramcNÔe[ pirp&òaeinlaTmj>,
Vyij}piTkmu´en b÷na r"upu'gv.
12
yatsaushiilyaM janakaduhituryastvayi premabhuumaa
yastvacChauryapraNayagarimaa yaapyavaj~naaa dashaasye .
yaa chaahantaa nishicharapatestatsamastaM vyanakti
pratyakSaM me raghuvara tayossampravR^itto vivaadaH .. mandaakraantaa
yTsaEzILy< jnkÊihtuyRSTviy àemÉUma
ySTvCDaEyRà[ygirma yaPyv}a dzaSye,
ya cahNta inizcrpteStTsmSt< Vyni´
àTy]< me r"uvr tyaeSsMàv&Äae ivvad>. mNda³aNta
13
dR^iptasvasminsuguNamanR^itaM yaatudhaanaadhinaatho
deva tvayyapyanR^itamaguNaM yairavaadiidvachobhiH .
taanyevaarthaM tadavamatidaM tvatsamutkarSadaM cha
svapratyuktyaa$dbhutaghaTanayaa praapipatpreyasii te .. mandaakraantaa
†ÝSviSmNsugu[mn&t< yatuxanaixnawae
dev TvYyPyn&tmgu[< yErvadIÖcaeiÉ>,
taNyevaw¡ tdvmitd< TvTsmuTk;Rd< c
SvàTyu®yaÑ‚t"qnya àaippTàeysI te. mNda³aNta
14
pratyuktyarthavibodhashaktivirahaannirlajjamaaatmastava-
tvannindaavyavasaayatassa jaDadhiirnaiva vyaraMsiidyadaa .
spaSTaarthaani tadaa tathaa prativachaaMsyaaha sma devii yathaa
svoktyaivaavagataarthayaa sa kumatirhrINaH paraavartata.. shaarduulavikriiDitaM
àTyu®ywRivbaexzi´ivrhaiÚlR¾maTmStv-
TviÚNdaVyvsaytSs jfxInERv Vyr<sI*da,
SpòawaRin tda twa àitvca<Syah Sm devI ywa
Svae®yEvavgtawRya s k…mitÿIR[> pravtRt. zaËRliv³Iift
15
shataardhashliSTaarthapratiphaNitayukpadyavidhayaa
sphuTaikaarthapratyuktyupahitanavashlokavidhayaa .
pravR^ittaM taM vaadaM dR^iDhamavadhR^itaM me hR^idi haThaa -
nmukhaadadyodyantaM raghukulamaNe shR^iNvavahitaH .. shikhariNii
ztaxRiðòawRàit)i[tyuKp*ivxya
S)…qEkawRàTyu®yupihtnvðaekivxya,
àv&Ä< t< vad< †Fmvx&t< me ùid hQa -
Nmuoad*ae*Nt< r"uk…lm[e z&{vviht>. izoir[I
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ityudiirya pavamaananandanaH
shabdashaastraviduSaaM purogamaH .
aadaraadavadhR^itaM shrutaM puraa
taM vivaadamavadadyathaakramam .. rathodgataa
#TyudIyR pvmannNdn>
zBdzaôivÊ;a< puraegm>,
Aadradvx&t< ïut< pura
t< ivvadmvd*wa³mm!. rwaeÌta
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Solution to Puzzle No.2 will be published on 18th sep.
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