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Today's Topics:

   1. proper nouns in sanskrit (venkat ramanan krishnan)
   2. Re: proper nouns in sanskrit (Ambujam Raman)
   3. rAmAyanaM - gAyatri shlokas (Vikram Santurkar)
   4. Re: rAmAyanaM - gAyatri shlokas (P.K.Ramakrishnan)
   5. gAyatri raamaayaNa (Desiraju Hanumanta Rao)
   6. gaayatri raamaayan - II (Desiraju Hanumanta Rao)
   7. learning samskritam (Rishi Kumar)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:09:25 -0500
From: "venkat ramanan krishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] proper nouns in sanskrit
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Hi,

I was told that "Vishnu" is the only proper noun in sanskrit. Is that true
?
Does sanskrit have the same concept of nouns as english ?

Venkat


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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:52:39 -0500
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] proper nouns in sanskrit
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Apparently you are referring to the grammar postulated by Srila Jiva
Goswamin  (CE 1511-1506) of the Hare Krishna group. They refer to every word
which has grammatical meaning as 'vishnupada'.  This however is not
universally accepted by sankritists.

rAmaH
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> Hi,
>
> I was told that "Vishnu" is the only proper noun in sanskrit. Is that true
> ?
> Does sanskrit have the same concept of nouns as english ?
>
> Venkat
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:28:35 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: [Sanskrit] rAmAyanaM - gAyatri shlokas
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Namaste,
 
There is a often quoted claim that the letters of gAyatri mantra are embedded 
in the first letters of certain chapters in the vAlmIki rAmAyanaM.
 
Has anyone verified this and if so, post the relevant shlokas? 
 
thanks,
Vikram
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 02:23:40 -0800 (PST)
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Vikram Santurkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Namaste,
 
There is a often quoted claim that the letters of gAyatri mantra are embedded 
in the first letters of certain chapters in the vAlmIki rAmAyanaM.
 
Has anyone verified this and if so, post the relevant shlokas? 
 
thanks,
Vikram
 
As found in the internet.
 
Gayatri Ramayana 


The Valmiki Ramayana contains 24,000 verses. Sage Valmiki has hidden the 24 
Beejaaksharas (seed letters) of the sacred Gayatri Mantra in these 24000 verses 
(one Beejaakshara per thousand verses). The above collection of 24 verses which 
carry the 24 Beejaaksharas is called as Gayatri Ramayana. It is said that by 
chanting this everyday, one will acquire the same merit as one acquires by 
chanting the entire Ramayana.

Tapassvaadhyaaya niratam tapasvee vaagvidaam varam
Naaradam paripaprachcha vaalmeekir muni pungavam 1

Sa hatvaa raakshasaan sarvaan yajnaghnaan raghu nandana
Rishibhih poojitah samyak yathendro vijayaa puraa 2

Vishvaamitrah sa dharmaatmaa shrutvaa janaka bhaashitam
Vatsa raama dhanuh pashya iti raaghavamabraveet 3

Tushtaavaasya tadaa vamsham pravishya sa vishaam pateh
Shayaneeyam narendrasya tadaasaadya vyatishthata 4

Vana vaasam hi sanjaaya vaassamsi aabharanaani cha
Bhartaaram anugachchantyai seetayai shwashuro dadou 5


Raajaa satyam cha dharmashcha raajaa kulavataam kulam
Raajaa maataa pitaa chaiva raajaa hitakaro nrinaam 6


Nireekshya sa muhoortam tu dadarsha bharato gurum
Utaje raamam aaseenam jataa valkala dhaarinam 7


Yadi buddhih kritaa drashtum agastyam tam mahaa munim
Adyaiva gamane buddhim rochayasva mahaa yashah 8


Bharatasya aarya putrasya shwashroonaam mama cha prabho
Mriga roopam idam vyaktam vismayam janayishyati 9


Gachcha sheeghram ito rama sugreevam tam mahaa balam
Vayasyam tam kuru kshipramito gatvaadya raaghava 10


Desha kalou prateekshyasya kshama maamanah priyaa priye
Sukha duhkha sahah kaale sugreeva vashago bhava 11


Vandyaaste tu tapassidhaah tapanaa veeta kalmashaah
Prashtavyaah chaapi seetaayaah pravrittim vinayaanvitaih 12


Sa nirjitya pureem shreshthaam lankaam taam kaama roopineem
Vikramena mahaa tejaa hanoomaan maarutaatmajah 13


Dhanyaa devaah sa gandharvaah siddhaashcha paramarshayah
Mama pashyanti naatham raamam raajeeva lochanam 14


Mangaalaabhi mukhee tasya saa tadaaseen mahaa kapeh
Upatasthe vishaalaakshee prayataa havya vaahanam 15


Hitam mahaartham mritu poorva samhitam
Vyateeta kaalaayati sampratikshamama
Vishamya tadvaakyam upasthita jvarah
Prasangavaan uttaram etadabraveet 16


Dharmaatmaa rakshasaam shreshthah sampraaptoyam vibheeshanah
Lankaishvaryam dhruvam shreemaan ayam praapnotyakantakam 17


Yo vajrapaataashani sannipaataa-
Nna chukshubhe naapi chachaala raajaa
Sa raama baanaabhihato bhrishaartha-
Shchachaala chaapam muhocha veerah 18


Yasya vikramamaasaadya raakshasaa nidhanam gataah
Tam manye raaghavam veeram naaraayanam anaamayam 19


Na te dadrishire raamam dahantam ari vaahineem
Mohitaah paramaastrena gaandharvena mahaatmanaa 20


Pranamya devataabhyashcha braahmanebhyashcha maithilee
Baddhaanjali putaa chedam uvaachaagni sameepatah 21


Chalannat parvatendrasya ganaa devaashcha kampitaah
Chachaala paarvatee chaapi tadaashlishtaa maheshvaram 22


Daaraah putraah puram raashtram bhogaachchaadana bhojanam
Sarvamevaa vibhaktam no bhavishyati hareeshvara 23


Yaameva raatrim shatrughnah parnashaalaam samaavishat
Taameva raatreem seetaapi prasootaa daaraka dvayam 24


Idam raamaayanam kritsnam gaayatree beeja samyutam
Trishandhyam yah pathennityam sarva paapaih pramuchyate. 

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I have yet to find the sarga, chapter and shloka number of theee verses.

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 04:09:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Desiraju Hanumanta Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] gAyatri raamaayaNa
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RK garu - Have you not see these verses of gaayatri
raamaayan and their detailes at endnote of Bala Kanda in
valmikiramayan.net site, together with samkshepa
raamaayaNa. I have given sarga/verse numbers there. Pl see
them. I was about to write about it to VS, and you sent
mail.

Vikramji - you may also see there. Somehow the word tR^i of
savitR^i vareNyam will have no verse and something
ununderstandable is said about it.

dhr





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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 04:20:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Desiraju Hanumanta Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] gaayatri raamaayan - II
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sorry for the wrong post about tR^i in savitR^i vareNyam
etc. reg gaayatri raamaayana. Some other matter is
copy/pasted. Matter posted by RK garu holds good.

dhrao

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:14:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Rishi Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] learning samskritam
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Namaste , 
 
I am Rishi Kumar and I subscribed myself recently to this group. I finished my 
MS recently and I am currently working in an IT company.
 
Your discussions enlighten me with the deep cultural and spiritual knowledge 
imbibed in our great country. I have often wondered how much I am missing by 
not knowing samskritam very well. 
 
I can understand the language and can also talk a little (I learnt rudra namak 
chamakam, suktams, shabda rupaaha  etc) . But I am in need for pointers from 
elders to learn this language well so that I may be able to read and understand 
this great language. 
 
Dhanyavaadam,
Rishi

Desiraju Hanumanta Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

sorry for the wrong post about tR^i in savitR^i vareNyam
etc. reg gaayatri raamaayana. Some other matter is
copy/pasted. Matter posted by RK garu holds good.

dhrao

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