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Today's Topics:
1. reply to Ramesh Krishnamurthy re: anusvara (Todd D)
2. anusvaara (Jay Vaidya)
3. Re: pronunciation of the anusvara (tobhalgt)
4. Re: Modern Day Sanskrit Poet - Details sought (Sai)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:34:19 -0500
From: Todd D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] reply to Ramesh Krishnamurthy re: anusvara
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I know that the way anusvara is handled varies differently, but in the
text I have learned from by Dr. Ashok Aklujkar, there would not be an
anusvara before a semi-vowel, such as y. For a more detailed answer, I
would have to locate my grammar books.
sarvam mangalam
Todd
In reply to:
2) If the anusvara is followed by ya, ra, la, va, sha, Sha, sa, ha, it
would take the 'm' sound.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 07:51:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] anusvaara
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From: Ramesh Krishnamurthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 1) If the anusvara is followed by a consonant
> ('ka' to 'ma') it takes the sound of the last
> consonant in the specific varga.
Correct
2) If the anusvara is followed by ya, ra, la,
> va, sha, Sha, sa, ha, it would take the 'm' sound.
WRONG
> For example, what is the correct pronunciation of
> saMskR^ita? In the north, it is pronounced as
> sanskR^it, in the south as samskR^it.
Both are wrong if speaking in sa.nskR^ita. Both are
correct if the embedding language is something else.
i.e., a hindii speaker embedding the word in a hindii
sentence will be correct in saying "sanskrit" , a
maraaThii speaker embedding the word in a maraaThii
sentence will correctly pronounce it as "sau.Nskrut"
etc. However, it appears that you are looking for the
sa.nskR^ita pronunciation, in which case all of the
above are wrong.
Before y, l, v, the anusvaara can be said as the
nasalized consonants y.N l.N v.N -- the pronunciation
of "saMyamii" and "saMvat" by many (but not all)
hindii speakers is similar to the pronunciation of
those words in sa.nskR^ita. I cannot think of a l.N
use in hindi, but I hope you could figure it out by
analogy.
In other circumstances, pronounce anusvAra as
anusvAra, i.e., shut your mouth, relax your tongue and
let the voiced breath pass purely through the nose.
Note that this is not any of the five "mouthed" nasals
(^N, JN, N, n, m) where the flow of voiced breath
through mouth is stopped at the five places (back
palate, front palate, retroflex palate, teeth, lips).
We all know to produce this sound, if we have ever
hummed a tune with the mouth closed.
anusvAras at the end of non-final words can optionally
be pronounced as the pure anusvAra no matter what
follows.
> I think the latter is more correct, but what is
> the level of emphasis on the 'm'?
There is no 'm'. Of course there are a few exceptions,
which are given in all of the textbooks -- e.g.,
"samrAT" is never written with a dot, and is always
pronounced with a fully articulated 'm', etc. etc.
> samarakshaNa, which is clearly wrong.
You got it. In that mispronunciation, the word also
exists and means something quite different.
dhana.njayaH
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:19:32 +0530
From: "tobhalgt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] pronunciation of the anusvara
To: "Ramesh Krishnamurthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Cc: Shrikant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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NamoNamah,
Dr. RamaKrishna Gopal Bhandarkar in his Sanskrit Grammar Books asks the
Sanskrit word for FLESH to be pronounced as mAns.
This is FYI
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From: Ramesh Krishnamurthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] pronunciation of the anusvara
Namaste,
I had a query on the pronunciation of the anusvara. My understanding
is as follows:
1) If the anusvara is followed by a consonant ('ka' to 'ma') it takes
the sound of the last consonant in the specific varga. For example,
anusvara followed by 'ka' or 'ga' would take the '~N' sound (ITRANS);
anusvara followed by 'ta' or 'da' would take the 'n' sound, followed
by 'pa' or 'ba' would take the 'm' sound, etc
2) If the anusvara is followed by ya, ra, la, va, sha, Sha, sa, ha, it
would take the 'm' sound.
I am pretty sure of (1) above but not of (2). For example, what is the
correct pronunciation of saMskR^ita? In the north, it is pronounced as
sanskR^it, in the south as samskR^it. I think the latter is more
correct, but what is the level of emphasis on the 'm'?
In Kerala, the anusvara is sometimes pronounced as the full 'ma' and
not just 'm'. For example, saMrakshaNa is often pronounced
samarakshaNa, which is clearly wrong.
dhanyavaadaH
ramesh
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:12:17 -0600
From: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Modern Day Sanskrit Poet - Details sought
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Sri Madugula Nagaphani Sarma is who I quote once in a while on
the mailing list.
His official website is
http://nagaphanisarma.com/
He is an avadhaani.
- Sai.
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