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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 49, Issue 13 (Raghunathan Kuppusawmy)
   2. Re: Alliterative poems (Phillip Ernest)
   3. Re: [L1] testing (1 of 10) topic-based filters; IGNORE (Sai)
   4. [ADMIN] testing (2 of 10) topic-based filters; IGNORE (Sai)
   5. [L1] testing topic-based filters; IGNORE (Sai)
   6. testing topic [grammar]; IGNORE (Sai)
   7. Re: final test: topic-based filters; IGNORE (Sai Susarla)
   8. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 49, Issue 13 (venetia ansell)
   9. 'Simplified Romanized Sanskrit' - Sing Along with these
      recordings of the Gita - (dina)
  10. Sanskrit blogs (Phillip Ernest)
  11. Re: Sanskrit blogs (elcico2001)
  12. Re: Sanskrit blogs (r_vani ramakrishnan)
  13. Re: Sanskrit blogs (thiagarajan rajagopalan)
  14. Re: Sanskrit blogs (Naresh Cuntoor)
  15. Re: Sanskrit blogs (Phillip Ernest)
  16. Re: Sanskrit blogs (Phillip Ernest)
  17. [ADMIN] Please read: Revised list guidelines + additions
      (Naresh Cuntoor)
  18. [Novice] Request for translations etc. (Pankaj Gupta)
  19. Re: Sanskrit blogs (kamalesh pathak)
  20. Re: [Novice] Request for translations etc. (Ganesan)
  21. [grammar] vyAkaraNa vaibhavaM - Introduction (Sai Susarla)
  22. Re: [Novice] Request for translations etc. (kamalesh pathak)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:24:11 +0530 (IST)
From: Raghunathan Kuppusawmy <tskraghu2...@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 49, Issue 13
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Message-ID: <885957.64324...@web94803.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
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Hi,

I saw the two following examples of alliteration.
Could u kindly include the meaning and the source for the benefit of novices 
like me who nevertheless are keen to understand?

Only recently I learnt this alankara is called Andhadhi in Tamizh. It is not so 
much of alliteration in the usual sense - here the last word of one unit 
becomes the first word of next..

Are there examples of other types of alankara's?

Thanks,

K Raghunathan


uddhRutanaga nagabhidanuja
danujakulaamitra mitra-shashi-dRuShTe |
dRuShTe bhavati prabhavati
na bhavati kim bhava-tiraskaaraH ||

sarasvati prasaadaM me? sthitiM cittasarasvati 
sarasvati kuru kShetrakuru kshetrasasvati


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:27:44 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Alliterative poems
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Message-ID: <20090517132744.azeln6j1ss4g8...@webmail.utoronto.ca>
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Quoting umahise...@comcast.net:

> ??????? ??????? ?? ??????? ????????????? ?
>
> ??????? ???? ??????????? ??????????????? ?

apyayaM zloko yuktalikhito'sti/  tasyaartho mamaivaavyakto'sti//


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:30:40 -0600
From: Sai <s...@cs.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [L1] testing (1 of 10) topic-based filters;
        IGNORE
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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This is a test email 1 of 10. 
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- Sai.


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Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:35:07 -0600
From: Sai <s...@cs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Sanskrit] [ADMIN] testing (2 of 10) topic-based filters;
        IGNORE
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This is a test email (2 of 10). 
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Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:58:04 -0600
From: Sai <s...@cs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Sanskrit] [L1] testing topic-based filters; IGNORE
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:01:04 -0600
From: Sai <s...@cs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Sanskrit] testing topic [grammar]; IGNORE
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:41:35 +0530
From: Sai Susarla <sai.susa...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] final test: topic-based filters; IGNORE
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Final test mail. Please ignore.
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- Sai.

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Sai <s...@cs.utah.edu> wrote:

> This is a test email. Ignore it.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:31:42 +0530
From: venetia ansell <venetia.ans...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 49, Issue 13
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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>
> Dear Naresh,

I have come across an example of what I am told is alliteration (anuprAsa)
which I think is also a shadba-alankara:

k?lye sen?? kapi-kula-pates %t?r?am udyojayi?yan

d?r?-bh?v?j janaka-duhitur %d?yam?n?-?ntar-?tm? |

kr???-khela? kamala-sarasi %kv? ?pi k?l?-?pay?ta?
r?k?-candra-dyuti-saha-cara? r?ja-ha?sa? dadar?a
 I think that there are four types of this alankara (alliteration) but
wondered if you know more?
Best,
Venetia Ansell

>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 00:52:38 -0400
> From: Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Alliterative poems
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Message-ID:
>        <f4ce5f9f0905152152p568c60eva939dc9c063a7...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Alliterative chimes are one of the many shabda-alankaras used by
> Sanskrit poets. I believe the technical term is shRnkhalA-yamaka. An
> example,
>
> uddhRutanaga nagabhidanuja
> danujakulaamitra mitra-shashi-dRuShTe |
> dRuShTe bhavati prabhavati
> na bhavati kim bhava-tiraskaaraH ||
>
> The last part of a word becomes the first part of the next word.
>
> If you know more examples of this alankara, please add them.
>
>
> Naresh P. Cuntoor
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:45:06 -0000
From: "dina" <dina...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] 'Simplified Romanized Sanskrit' - Sing Along with
        these   recordings of the Gita -
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Message-ID: <gv95m2+a...@egroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

Dear Sanskrit lovers,
a
 proven way for everyone and anyone to easily sing along the Bhagavad Gita - 
please see my website: http://www.gitasingalong.on.to 

Developed carefully after years of research and practice, this way of singing 
the gita is helping more and more people all over the world to 

(1) observe gita jayanti by mass singing of the entire gita in a relishable, 
musical format 

(2) making gita reading a part of their daily life, their sadhana and 

(3) easily and effortlessly memorizing slokas and thus benefitting from the 
wisdom of the Gita plus becoming able to pass the Lord's msg on to others!


You can also download in mp3 format the entire gita in this format, along with 
all the verses in Simplified Romanized Sanskrit in PDF format.

Hare krsna!

your humble servant,
in service of sri guru, sri gopal and srimad bhagavad gita,



dina 


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:34:47 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Message-ID: <20090528133447.2ldh85k0rkgoo...@webmail.utoronto.ca>
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This seems to be the proper place to ask about Sanskrit blogs, which I  
heard about long ago (I think they are an American phenomenon), but  
have not been able to find on Google.  It has recently been mentioned  
on this list that one member is involved in them, I recall.

Phillip
Pune


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 00:22:58 +0200
From: elcico2001 <elcico2...@yahoo.it>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Phillip Ernest ha scritto:
> This seems to be the proper place to ask about Sanskrit blogs, which I  
> heard about long ago (I think they are an American phenomenon), but  
> have not been able to find on Google.  It has recently been mentioned  
> on this list that one member is involved in them, I recall.
>
> Phillip
> Pune
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http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=sanskrit+blog&btnG=Cerca+con+Google&meta=&aq=f&oq=

I see 4-5 blogs.

Namaste :)

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: r_vani ramakrishnan <r_van...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Yes, I too like to have some details of these blogs in samskrit if anybody 
gives.
With love,
D.Ramakrishnan

--- On Wed, 27/5/09, Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca> wrote:

From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 11:34 PM

This seems to be the proper place to ask about Sanskrit blogs, which I? 
heard about long ago (I think they are an American phenomenon), but? 
have not been able to find on Google.? It has recently been mentioned? 
on this list that one member is involved in them, I recall.

Phillip
Pune
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Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 06:13:04 +0000
From: thiagarajan rajagopalan <visvasa...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
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No idea please
 
> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:34:47 +0900
> From: phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
> 
> This seems to be the proper place to ask about Sanskrit blogs, which I 
> heard about long ago (I think they are an American phenomenon), but 
> have not been able to find on Google. It has recently been mentioned 
> on this list that one member is involved in them, I recall.
> 
> Phillip
> Pune
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:06:20 -0400
From: Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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There is a thread on the speaksanskrit forum regarding this ... Some examples:


http://vishvavani.blogspot.com/

http://samskritapatrika.blogspot.com/

http://kalidasa.blogspot.com/

http://koham.wordpress.com/

http://vykharee.blogspot.com/

http://satyayugam.blogspot.com/

http://nimittam.blogspot.com/

http://vaak.wordpress.com/


For more, please take a look at this topic
http://www.speaksanskrit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=388



Naresh P. Cuntoor





On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Phillip Ernest
<phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca> wrote:
> This seems to be the proper place to ask about Sanskrit blogs, which I
> heard about long ago (I think they are an American phenomenon), but
> have not been able to find on Google. ?It has recently been mentioned
> on this list that one member is involved in them, I recall.
>
> Phillip
> Pune
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
> and follow instructions.
>


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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 00:35:36 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Message-ID: <20090531003536.c6irtlbew4k44...@webmail.utoronto.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=ISO-8859-1;     DelSp="Yes";
        format="flowed"

Quoting elcico2001 <elcico2...@yahoo.it>:


> http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=sanskrit+blog&btnG=Cerca+con+Google&meta=&aq=f&oq=
>
> I see 4-5 blogs.

Grazie, Cico, non li ho visto, non so perche'.  Lei dov' e'?  Dove in  
Italia, o in India?

kRtavedyasmi/ imaani mamaiva dRSTaani na bhavanti/ kaaraNam na  
vijaanaami/  bhavaankva bhavati/ italiyadeze vaa bhaarate vaa kva//

Filippo
Ashvamitra


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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 00:38:00 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Message-ID: <20090531003800.bxp4tqgvwg8ks...@webmail.utoronto.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=ISO-8859-1;     DelSp="Yes";
        format="flowed"

Quoting Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>:

> There is a thread on the speaksanskrit forum regarding this ... Some  
>  examples:

Thanks much for everyone's help, there is much to explore after all.   
I hope I'll find somewhere to start writing soon.

Phillip
Pune


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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 22:35:32 -0400
From: Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] [ADMIN] Please read: Revised list guidelines +
        additions
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:58:23 -0500
From: "Pankaj Gupta" <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Hi 

I want to request every one who has basic familiarity with Sanskrit, or
familiarity with some sanskrit texts - to share and write translations of
any kinds of Sanskrit texts. There are not too many translations available
on the net, many of the available translations omit original Sanskrit, and
many are written with the intent to simply convey the meaning of the text,
instead of as an aid to learning Sanskrit. 

It would be great if people who know sanskrit, help other people like myself
learn and spread Sanskrit. I have found it a daunting task to learn
Sanskrit. Nevertheless, over the years I have gained some familiarity and am
able to decipher and understand simpler texts - not all of it but some
portions, like a few lines from Mahabharat would be clear, and then the next
few lines would be totally above me and so on. 

I belong to the school of 'learn by example'. Grammer etc. is not really for
me. However, I have found Sandhi rules etc. to be very helpful. 

But really, if we could have translations of diverse Sanskrit texts, maybe
giving word meanings or just plain explaination of what's going on - it
would be great. Mahabharat, for example, proves a huge amount of text, with
context familiarity to a lot of people here. I reqest knowledgeable members
to provide learning to others. It is a great way to spread the knowledge of
Sanskrit. 


Thanks and my regards to all.
Pankaj

 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of Naresh Cuntoor
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:36 PM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: [Sanskrit] [ADMIN] Please read: Revised list guidelines + additions

In the recent weeks the list has shown signs of shaking off its
dormancy. We hope it finds its voice again. The brief exchange of
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summarized here. If you have any questions, comments or
clarifications, please write to the moderators at
sanskrit-ow...@cs.utah.edu . Please do not write to the mailing list
itself.

0. Emails about Sanskrit or in Sanskrit?
This is completely up to you. You are welcome to write in Sanskrit
using devanagari (unicode) or itrans or transliterated text. If you
choose to write in devanagari (say, using baraha), please note that
not all email clients can decipher unicode.

Questions, discussions and informative postings about Sanskrit,
grammar, literature, etc. are all welcome.

All other emails should be sent to the moderators ONLY (address above)
and not to the list.

1. Moderated vs. unmoderated --
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everyone under moderation by default. When a member sends a mail that
is of relevance to the list, his/her moderation flag will be turned
off. That means that he/she can post messages to the list directly
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have a moderated list is to simply filter out spam / emails unrelated
to the list.

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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:16:00 +0530
From: kamalesh pathak <kamleshsomn...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit blogs
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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yes mr. PHILLIP Ernest
i have placed my blog for sanskrit related topic for a perticular place whom
i  believe the oldest and special one with proper reasonss to claim so , but
details are in english and hoping to give more and more scintific
explanation about sanskrit A to Z. . mean while if it is convinient please
visit my blog hhtp://theholylandprabhas.blogspot.com on google search.

hope to meet U again.
kamalesh


On 28/05/2009, Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> This seems to be the proper place to ask about Sanskrit blogs, which I
> heard about long ago (I think they are an American phenomenon), but
> have not been able to find on Google.  It has recently been mentioned
> on this list that one member is involved in them, I recall.
>
> Phillip
> Pune
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:41:52 +0530
From: "Ganesan" <gane...@ifpindia.org>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Namaste,
It is definitely a very good idea proposed by Sri. Pankaj Gupta.
Indeed word-for word translations help a lot in making known the text to 
others, making the understanding of some important words and concepts 
expounded in that particular text clearly. Even if one finds some words 
unclear this type of translations, especially in the present context of 
e-groups, will aid clarify the points and one can improve one's 
understanding.
I personally feel that translating the Mahabharata (which of course, is 
voluminous and huge) as well as the purana-s, especially the less known 
uapurana-s and the sthalamahatmya-s will go a long way in propagating the 
high culture and varied thoughts of our Rishis expressed simply in them.
There are hundreds of akhyana-s, katha-s, and any number of moral and wise 
utterings in these neglected texts.
Along with the knowledge of Sanskrit one should aim at propagating the 
unique cultural values and the fundamentals of our Bharatiya samskriti.
With the best wishes,
Ganesan

Dr.T.Ganesan
Senior Researcher in Saivagama-s &
Saivasiddhanta
French Institute
11, St. Louis Street
PONDICHERRY-605001
INDIA

Tel: +91 - 413 - 233 4168 ext. 123
E mail: gane...@ifpindia.org
Web: www.ifpindia.org
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pankaj Gupta" <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com>
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:28 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.


> Hi
>
> I want to request every one who has basic familiarity with Sanskrit, or
> familiarity with some sanskrit texts - to share and write translations of
> any kinds of Sanskrit texts. There are not too many translations available
> on the net, many of the available translations omit original Sanskrit, and
> many are written with the intent to simply convey the meaning of the text,
> instead of as an aid to learning Sanskrit.
>
> It would be great if people who know sanskrit, help other people like 
> myself
> learn and spread Sanskrit. I have found it a daunting task to learn
> Sanskrit. Nevertheless, over the years I have gained some familiarity and 
> am
> able to decipher and understand simpler texts - not all of it but some
> portions, like a few lines from Mahabharat would be clear, and then the 
> next
> few lines would be totally above me and so on.
>
> I belong to the school of 'learn by example'. Grammer etc. is not really 
> for
> me. However, I have found Sandhi rules etc. to be very helpful.
>
> But really, if we could have translations of diverse Sanskrit texts, maybe
> giving word meanings or just plain explaination of what's going on - it
> would be great. Mahabharat, for example, proves a huge amount of text, 
> with
> context familiarity to a lot of people here. I reqest knowledgeable 
> members
> to provide learning to others. It is a great way to spread the knowledge 
> of
> Sanskrit.
>
>
> Thanks and my regards to all.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] 
> On
> Behalf Of Naresh Cuntoor
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:36 PM
> To: Sanskrit Mailing List
> Subject: [Sanskrit] [ADMIN] Please read: Revised list guidelines + 
> additions
>
> In the recent weeks the list has shown signs of shaking off its
> dormancy. We hope it finds its voice again. The brief exchange of
> emails, however, required us to revisit some list policies, as
> summarized here. If you have any questions, comments or
> clarifications, please write to the moderators at
> sanskrit-ow...@cs.utah.edu . Please do not write to the mailing list
> itself.
>
> 0. Emails about Sanskrit or in Sanskrit?
> This is completely up to you. You are welcome to write in Sanskrit
> using devanagari (unicode) or itrans or transliterated text. If you
> choose to write in devanagari (say, using baraha), please note that
> not all email clients can decipher unicode.
>
> Questions, discussions and informative postings about Sanskrit,
> grammar, literature, etc. are all welcome.
>
> All other emails should be sent to the moderators ONLY (address above)
> and not to the list.
>
> 1. Moderated vs. unmoderated --
> The list is presently under moderation. Our policy will be to place
> everyone under moderation by default. When a member sends a mail that
> is of relevance to the list, his/her moderation flag will be turned
> off. That means that he/she can post messages to the list directly
> until we have reason to turn the moderation back on. The decision to
> have a moderated list is to simply filter out spam / emails unrelated
> to the list.
>
> 2. On whether to move to yahoo / google groups.
> For now, we have decided to continue with the existing setup. The
> current system provides most of the features that yahoo / google
> groups provide (more details below). We may revisit this issue in the
> future should the need arise, but we have tried to ensure that most of
> the advantages of such a move are satisfied here itself.
>
> 3. Please be aware that there are various options for following
> discussions on the mailing list
> (a) Receiving individual emails directly to your inbox -- with or
> without tagging (see below).
> (b) Receiving a daily digest
> (c) Turning off mail delivery and reading mails on the archive
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/
>
> 4. Tagging - new feature.
> For better email management, we request every poster who initiates a
> thread to include one of the following tags in the subject line:
>
> [L1] or [Lesson] or [Novice]
> -- For beginners' queries
> --For those who can't read or understand Sanskrit
>
> [L2] or [Grammar]
> --Discussions on grammar
> --Postings may be in sanskrit (itrans or unicode)
>
> [L2] or [Literature]
> --Discussions on poetry, shlokas, etc.
> --Postings may be in sanskrit (itrans or unicode)
>
> When you reply to a message using the "Reply" or "Reply to all"
> feature of your email, you do not need to worry about this. Emails
> have to be tagged only once.
>
> If you choose to receive a daily digest, this option is not very useful.
>
> 5. Why tagging?
> You can customize which of these emails you want to receive in your
> inbox (all members should choose to receive Admin emails).  To
> customize, please go to
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/options/sanskrit
> and customize the 'topic categories' section.
>
> 6. Emails are not tagged automatically based on content. Also, you may
> miss emails in case emails are wrongly tagged or not tagged at all.
>
> 7. The list consists of members whose level of proficiency in the
> language is varied. Everybody is welcome to post. Beginners may want
> to look at some of the FAQs mentioned below before posting.
> http://sanskritdocuments.org/learning_tools/learning_tools.html
> http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/sanskrit/tutor.html
> http://sanskritlinks.blogspot.com/
> http://www.speaksanskrit.org/otherResources.shtml
> [This list is not meant to exhaustive.]
>
> 8. Attachments cannot be sent to the mailing list. If discussions
> require documents to be communicated to the members, please send a
> note to sanskrit-ow...@cs.utah.edu and we may host the document and
> provide a web link to access the document. [For example, pdfs can be
> shared this way.]
>
>
> Thank you for your patience and understanding.
>
> On behalf of admin,
> Naresh
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:30:11 +0530
From: Sai Susarla <sai.susa...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] [grammar] vyAkaraNa vaibhavaM - Introduction
To: sanskrit <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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keywords: [l2], [grammar]

sarvebhyo namaH !

I want to start a new dhaaraavaahikam or series called "vyaakaraNa
vaibhavam" to help us appreciate the beautiful systematic structure of
the sanskrit language. A couple of months ago, Sarada (my wife) and I
started taking weekly classes in Bangalore on laghu siddhAnta kaumudI
(the commentary to commentary of Panini's aShTaadhyaayii) from Srimaan
venkaTa ramaNa bhaTTa mahodaya, a scholar and excellent teacher in
Sanskrit who lives in Hosakote, 20 km away from Bangalore.

One dimension of Sanskrit's beauty lies in its conciseness and
precision of expression. I heard many things about the remarkable
scientific approach of Sanskrit grammarians and wanted to appreciate
it first hand. As a novice to grammar myself, my hope through this
series is threefold:
1) to tickle scholars on this list to come out and share their wisdom
with others,
2) to irritate them enough to correct me by exposing my ignorance :-)
3) to dispel the notion that Sanskrit grammar is esoteric and hard to
understand, by giving a more intuitive explanation of the concepts. I
feel that as scientists, we are all well-equipped to routinely handle
complex ideas if only those ideas can be presented in a way palatable
to the present-day style of expression.

I have been attempting to understand Sanskrit grammar that way. We all
know that the best way to imbibe knowledge is to share it with others.
By writing about it, our own concepts will be clarified. Feel free to
add more to what I say as well as correct my errors as we go along.
I am a total novice to Sanskrit grammar and am eager to learn.

I will be using laghu siddhAnta kaumudii as the text. You don't have
to read this book, but looking at it would help. I will be using the
ITRANS transliteration convention to write sanskrit in english
alphabet. Though writing in sanskrit script also would help, that's
too much work.

If some expert on the list could write a brief (2 paragraph) intro to
Panini and his approach to grammar, I'd greatly appreciate it. The
write up should generate audience interest in grammar without scaring
them away. Hence the less technical it is, the better.

natvA sarasvatIm devIm shuddhAm guNyaam karomyahaM |
pANiniiya praveshAya laghu siddhAnta kaumudIM ||

Let us start at the very beginning with maaheshvara sUtrANi, the very
origin of Sanskrit alphabet and basis of Panini's grammar.

1) a i u N.h
2) R^i lR^ k.h
3) e o n.h
4) ai au ch.h
5) ha ya va ra t.h
6) la N.h
7) ~na ma ~na Na na m.h
8) jha bha ~n.h
9) gha Dha dha Sh.h
10) ja ba ga Da da sh.h
11) kha pha chha Tha tha cha Ta ta v.h
12) ka pa y.h
13) sha sa sa r.h
14) ha l.h

(the .h at the end of a letter denotes halanta which means 'omit the
akaara at the end' like in raam. Nothing complicated).

If you remove the last alphabet in each line, you will get the
complete Sanskrit alphabet.
These 14 sounds were audible to Rishis when shiva/naTaraaja played his
Dhakka (hand-held drum) 14 times at the end of his evening dance. If
you read them aloud, they indeed sound like those of a drum.
Panini has created an excellent concise convention to refer to
aksharas (syllables) in his entire aShTadhyAyi. For instance, in any
grammar rule if he says aN.h, it should be understood that he's
referring to a, i and u.
So, the short form for all Sanskrit vowels would be ach, which stands for
a i u e o ai au
and the short form for all Sanskrit consonants is hal, which stands for
ha ya va ra la ~na ma ~Na Na na jha bha gha Dha dha ja ba ga Da da

Cool, isn't it?

Hence to understand Sanskrit grammar rules that follow, it is
extremely important to thoroughly memorize these 14 sutras and recite
them even when woken up from deep sleep (as our elders used to say).

A small home work: Figure out what the following abbreviations mean:
jash.h
al.h
hal.h
yaN.h

- Sai.


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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:32:11 +0530
From: kamalesh pathak <kamleshsomn...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <171bab240906082302x790d4pc36a07e224eae...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Guptaji ,
indeed you have given a very very good suggession and i am happy that people
like we are interested to learn Sanskrit with its origin.
gentleman , i have collected 80 % of original texts of hindu religion. ( all
vedas , up vedas, most of brahmin granthas, shulba sutras , gruhya sutras ,
Aranyakas , upnishadas , shrauta sutras , shiksha granthas , astrology
granthas , ayurved texts ,  shat darshan granthas , puranas and up puranas
etc. in original texts but still need all tantra granthas and plenty other
material is required. if some one can guide me - from where and how these
books can be downloaded free of charge - i will be obliged. )
very soon i will send you your desired details at my level.
regards,
jay somanath.

kamalesh pathak


On 08/06/2009, Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I want to request every one who has basic familiarity with Sanskrit, or
> familiarity with some sanskrit texts - to share and write translations of
> any kinds of Sanskrit texts. There are not too many translations available
> on the net, many of the available translations omit original Sanskrit, and
> many are written with the intent to simply convey the meaning of the text,
> instead of as an aid to learning Sanskrit.
>
> It would be great if people who know sanskrit, help other people like
> myself
> learn and spread Sanskrit. I have found it a daunting task to learn
> Sanskrit. Nevertheless, over the years I have gained some familiarity and
> am
> able to decipher and understand simpler texts - not all of it but some
> portions, like a few lines from Mahabharat would be clear, and then the
> next
> few lines would be totally above me and so on.
>
> I belong to the school of 'learn by example'. Grammer etc. is not really
> for
> me. However, I have found Sandhi rules etc. to be very helpful.
>
> But really, if we could have translations of diverse Sanskrit texts, maybe
> giving word meanings or just plain explaination of what's going on - it
> would be great. Mahabharat, for example, proves a huge amount of text, with
> context familiarity to a lot of people here. I reqest knowledgeable members
> to provide learning to others. It is a great way to spread the knowledge of
> Sanskrit.
>
>
> Thanks and my regards to all.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
> On
> Behalf Of Naresh Cuntoor
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:36 PM
> To: Sanskrit Mailing List
> Subject: [Sanskrit] [ADMIN] Please read: Revised list guidelines +
> additions
>
> In the recent weeks the list has shown signs of shaking off its
> dormancy. We hope it finds its voice again. The brief exchange of
> emails, however, required us to revisit some list policies, as
> summarized here. If you have any questions, comments or
> clarifications, please write to the moderators at
> sanskrit-ow...@cs.utah.edu . Please do not write to the mailing list
> itself.
>
> 0. Emails about Sanskrit or in Sanskrit?
> This is completely up to you. You are welcome to write in Sanskrit
> using devanagari (unicode) or itrans or transliterated text. If you
> choose to write in devanagari (say, using baraha), please note that
> not all email clients can decipher unicode.
>
> Questions, discussions and informative postings about Sanskrit,
> grammar, literature, etc. are all welcome.
>
> All other emails should be sent to the moderators ONLY (address above)
> and not to the list.
>
> 1. Moderated vs. unmoderated --
> The list is presently under moderation. Our policy will be to place
> everyone under moderation by default. When a member sends a mail that
> is of relevance to the list, his/her moderation flag will be turned
> off. That means that he/she can post messages to the list directly
> until we have reason to turn the moderation back on. The decision to
> have a moderated list is to simply filter out spam / emails unrelated
> to the list.
>
> 2. On whether to move to yahoo / google groups.
> For now, we have decided to continue with the existing setup. The
> current system provides most of the features that yahoo / google
> groups provide (more details below). We may revisit this issue in the
> future should the need arise, but we have tried to ensure that most of
> the advantages of such a move are satisfied here itself.
>
> 3. Please be aware that there are various options for following
> discussions on the mailing list
> (a) Receiving individual emails directly to your inbox -- with or
> without tagging (see below).
> (b) Receiving a daily digest
> (c) Turning off mail delivery and reading mails on the archive
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/
>
> 4. Tagging - new feature.
> For better email management, we request every poster who initiates a
> thread to include one of the following tags in the subject line:
>
> [L1] or [Lesson] or [Novice]
> -- For beginners' queries
> --For those who can't read or understand Sanskrit
>
> [L2] or [Grammar]
> --Discussions on grammar
> --Postings may be in sanskrit (itrans or unicode)
>
> [L2] or [Literature]
> --Discussions on poetry, shlokas, etc.
> --Postings may be in sanskrit (itrans or unicode)
>
> When you reply to a message using the "Reply" or "Reply to all"
> feature of your email, you do not need to worry about this. Emails
> have to be tagged only once.
>
> If you choose to receive a daily digest, this option is not very useful.
>
> 5. Why tagging?
> You can customize which of these emails you want to receive in your
> inbox (all members should choose to receive Admin emails).  To
> customize, please go to
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/options/sanskrit
> and customize the 'topic categories' section.
>
> 6. Emails are not tagged automatically based on content. Also, you may
> miss emails in case emails are wrongly tagged or not tagged at all.
>
> 7. The list consists of members whose level of proficiency in the
> language is varied. Everybody is welcome to post. Beginners may want
> to look at some of the FAQs mentioned below before posting.
> http://sanskritdocuments.org/learning_tools/learning_tools.html
> http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/sanskrit/tutor.html
> http://sanskritlinks.blogspot.com/
> http://www.speaksanskrit.org/otherResources.shtml
> [This list is not meant to exhaustive.]
>
> 8. Attachments cannot be sent to the mailing list. If discussions
> require documents to be communicated to the members, please send a
> note to sanskrit-ow...@cs.utah.edu and we may host the document and
> provide a web link to access the document. [For example, pdfs can be
> shared this way.]
>
>
> Thank you for your patience and understanding.
>
> On behalf of admin,
> Naresh
> _______________________________________________
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