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Message: 1
Date: 24 Aug 2009 18:59:58 -0000
From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 52, Issue 1
To: <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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I totally agree with Dr Vimala Sarma. Respecting our mythology is one thing;
and scientific analysis another.
My humble submission is that while studying the subtle aspects of a language
(or of any subject), it is not good to mix it up with mythology, lest it may
reduce the importance of the researcher?s work. A similar story goes round for
the great poet Kalidasa and goddess Kali also.
Lord Shiva is also associated by admirers of Aadi Shankaraachaarya calling him
a ?rebirth? of Lord Shiva; and seeing the work has done, it would virtually
seem to be the fact!
As Swami Chinmayanand has explained, Shiva (Lord Shiva) is the embodiment, a
personification of the 'Absolute Consciousness' principle. Every experience of
every living entity is illuminated by this Principle; and it gets reflected
variously according to the constitution of the object on which the Principle
'throws' light.
Respected KNR can analyse the subtle aspects of the language much better than
an uninitiated person like me because the constitution of his
body-mind-intellect equipment is more evolved; in this sense Lord Shiva dances
before him also; and probably before me also; but my equipment is not
fine-tuned as NRK's. Panin's equipment was probably very highly fine-tuned;
otherwise not only these 12 sounds but the brilliant ashtaadhyaayi would also
not have found ?form'.
Like what NRK?s story describes as a dance of Shiva, there is a story about the
scientist Kekule who discovered the closed ring compounds in organic chemistry.
Toeing the line of open chain compounds, Kekule was not able to answer his own
questions. He thought and thought and thought, and when he fell asleep he
dreamt of a snake catching his own tail! And that is how he discovered Benzene
as the ring compound, and then rationalized the alternate double bonds of the
tetravalent carbon in Benzene?s molecular formula C6H6. It would seem, Lord
Shiva,came in Kekule?s dream also! And yes, I believe, Lord Shiva will always
come to anyone in the world if his intellect is fully immersed in his enquiry.
Towards the same thinking, the following is just one of the selected extracts
of copy-paste transfers from pages of (Indian) REPORT OF THE SANSKRIT
COMMISSION 1956-57, which says that Professor Renou, concluding his recent
review of Indian Studies, says:
Quote:
? the rigour of the scientific method is something to which the average Pandit
does not submit himself easily or with enthusiasm. This leads to a ?dilution of
the standard', and when persisted in, brings into being a body of pseudo-
scientific workers and scholars.
Unquote
Care needs to be taken for not reducing PANINI?s genius as a grammarian and
perhaps the world?s first (known) phonetician.
Submitted in all humility?Shreyas
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:18:41 +0530 wrote
>
Thanks for that story, but I prefer to think the Grammar was due
to the genius of Panini, but I respect the traditional view .
When this e-mail to my last e-mail on
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of K.N.RAMESH
Sent: Monday, 24 August 2009 6:27 PM
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 52, Issue 1
Story of Pannini
You may know the interesting story as to how Panini, the originator of
Sanskrit grammar, received knowledge from Lord Siva. He was supposed to be the
dullest of the students in a group that was studying from a Guru in Taxila,
Taksha Shila. The other boys were very intelligent. Panini was the most stupid,
the least intelligent, very much belittled and made fun of by the students in
the class. He was deeply hurt that he was being cowed down by other students
and that he could not understand anything that the teacher said. Almost in a
desperate mood of disgust with everything, he went to the forest and deeply
contemplated on Lord Siva. He prayed, "O Lord! Bless me with
Knowledge." It is said that Lord Siva appeared before him, danced and revolved
His Dakka or Damaru fourteen times, and the following fourteen sounds were
made: 1. Aiun, 2. Rlrk, 3. Aowng, 4. Ai ouch, 5.
Ha ya va rat, 6. Lan, 7. Na ma nga na nam, 8. Jha
bhanj, 9. Gha dha dhash, 10. Ja ba ga da das, 11. Kha
pha chha tha tha cha ta tav, 12. Ka pay, 13. Sa sha sar, and
14. Hal. All this constitutes the very essence of Sanskrit grammar.
These sounds, meaningless as they may appear to us, became the foundation of
Sanskrit grammar and Sanskrit literature.
So, God can teach us without books and without the usual medium of instruction,
by a thought, a sound, a look, a touch or a benign gesture.
Pranaama:
knr
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:29 AM,
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1. Re: Respectful greetings from the Midwest: (Vimala Sarma)
2. Re: Respectful greetings from the Midwest: (Vimala Sarma)
3. [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction (Vishvas Vasuki)
4. Re: [Bulk] [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction (Ambujam
Raman)
5. Re: where to re-start (kamalesh pathak)
6. Re: where to re-start (Prasanta Mahala)
7. Re: [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction (Ganesan)
8. Re: [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction (Phillip Ernest)
9. [General] vishvavANyAH nUtanA sa~jchikA (Avinash L Varna)
10. Complete works of Shankaracharya (V Srini)
11. Email id for Samata : Complete works of Shankaracharya (V Srini)
12. arg...@gmail.com (Ar.Goki la)
13. [Literature] All Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads and so on
(Pankaj Gupta)
14. Re: [Literature] All Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads and so on
(Vishvas Vasuki)
15. Sanskrit Week celebrations at Hyd (SHRINIVASA VARAKHEDI)
16. (no subject) (Ashok Karnik)
17. Upanishad Shabda (anupam srivatsav)
18. Re: Upanishad Shabda (umahise...@comcast.net)
19. Re: Upanishad Shabda (Ajit Krishnan)
20. Re: Upanishad Shabda (umahise...@comcast.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:29:22 +1000
From: "Vimala Sarma"
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Respectful greetings from the Midwest:
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'"
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Yes -Sandhi is one thing - it just joins two words in a sequence, it is not
necessarily making a compound. The rules of Sandhi is straightforward.
However shivausadhi is to be taken as a compound - then it may be a genetive
tatpurusha - herb of Shiva, with the feminine long I ending.
Vimala
-----Original Message-----
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
On
Behalf Of Mihir Sanghavi
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 11:41 PM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Respectful greetings from the Midwest:
an a or aa gets absorbed into a vriddhi vowel. hence, the a of shiva
disappears. hence shivaushadhi.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:18 AM, default siva wrote:
> Namaskar,? I am humbled by the nature of this discussion group. Should my
> inquiry bear no fruit at all, I shall still give praise to the charitable
> Lord Shiva for bringing my attention to such an auspicious community .
>
> I am a 25 year old male and live in the bible belt / mid-western USA ,
> Kansas to be specific. Here, we have no access to like minded individuals
as
> Christianity reigns as the supreme dominator of our community. This is why
I
> am so grateful to have been shown this amazing group of beings devoted to
> divine consciousness and the sacred tongue.
>
> I would like to share more about myself with the community but perhaps I
> should get to my question, which I desperately seek an answer to.
>
> ?I have been studying the branches of vedanga in hopes of developing a
> greater understanding of vedic wisdom, the sacred language & to grow
closer
> to the divine. My resources for an education of Sanskrit Grammar are
limited
> to the internet & a used copy of Arthur A. Macdonell's book 'A
Sanskrit
> Grammar : For Students'
>
> I have developed a great passion for comprehending the devotional hymns
> composed by sri adi shankaracharya, which directs my focus more towrads
> chandas vedanga (metering), I understand that Nirukta, Shiksha and
> especially Vyakarana Vedanga may more approriate prerequisites to such
great
> understanding.
>
> My Question is this: I am uneducated on the process of compounding two
words
> in sanskrit. I would like to know how to compound the name Shiva , of
> obvious reference and the word Aushadhi (referring to a medicinal
> herb/psychotropic/shamanic plant),
>
> I have some understanding of transliteration and have been trying to learn
> using Spokensanskrit.de and ITRANS. Based upon my best guess after
reviewing
> different possibilities , I write it as : shivaushadhi , or shivaaushadhi
> and in devanagari like the results here:
>
> http://spokensanskrit.de/ttest.php?text=shivaaushadhi
>
> I apologize if I have not worded my question coherently but I am very new
to
> undestanding this language and system of writing. I am greatly humbled by
> the passionate experts within this community and acknowledge your time as
> valuable. Please know that I would not ask a question before trying to
> resolve it on my own.
>
>
> I greatly appreciate anytime spent in helping me understand.? Perhaps this
> process may be difficult to explain in great technical detail but I would
> appreciate the slightest bit of help. If one could please inform me how to
> properly combined these two words , it would enable me to have a sort of
> 'answer key' for finding the solution on my own.
>
>
>
> Bless You All for your sacred time. In honor of this community and my
> respect for each member ,? I will give great praise to Kaalbhairava for
the
> proper effecient utilization of time so that we may not waste even a
single
> moment.
>
> I will also recite the third stanza of the? Sashakthi Shiva Navakam ,
which
> I read before pursuing all? of my studies. Please, take a moment to read
the
> translation of this amazing hymn here:
> http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Sashakthi_Shiva_Navakam
>
> stanza # 3 of Sashakthi Shiva Navakam
>
> Meemsayaam samasthatam, sabdha sasthre viseshatha,
> Dehi mey deva sambragnam, Iym Nama Kleem Shivaya sou. 3
>
> In all the aspects of analysis of knowledge,
> Especially in the science of phonetics,
> Grant me expertise,
> Iym, Kleem, Salutations Shiva (the infinite goodness of divine
> conscioussness) Universal Manifestation
>
> Thank you again for your time and patience with such a beginner as me. I
> look forward to a greater education and understanding through fthe
> fellowship of this community.
>
> -Dan 'Shivaushadhi' (until proven grammatically incorrect)
>
>
>
> Note:? I am leaving for one week on friday and likely will not have
internet
> access until the first of August but I will be anxiously watching my inbox
> until the time I leave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:08:04 +1000
From: "Vimala Sarma"
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Respectful greetings from the Midwest:
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'"
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To clarify, the word is oSadhI (f, medicinal herb), but after sandhi it
becomes au, ie a+o = au.
Sandhi is one thing - it just joins two words phonetically in a sequence, it
is not necessarily making a compound. The rules of Sandhi are
straightforward. However if shivausadhi is to be taken as a compound -
then
it may be a genetive tatpurusha - ie herb of Shiva, with the feminine long I
ending, nominative singular.
Vimala
-----Original Message-----
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
On
Behalf Of Mihir Sanghavi
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 11:41 PM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Respectful greetings from the Midwest:
an a or aa gets absorbed into a vriddhi vowel. hence, the a of shiva
disappears. hence shivaushadhi.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:18 AM, default siva wrote:
> Namaskar,? I am humbled by the nature of this discussion group. Should my
> inquiry bear no fruit at all, I shall still give praise to the charitable
> Lord Shiva for bringing my attention to such an auspicious community .
>
> I am a 25 year old male and live in the bible belt / mid-western USA ,
> Kansas to be specific. Here, we have no access to like minded individuals
as
> Christianity reigns as the supreme dominator of our community. This is why
I
> am so grateful to have been shown this amazing group of beings devoted to
> divine consciousness and the sacred tongue.
>
> I would like to share more about myself with the community but perhaps I
> should get to my question, which I desperately seek an answer to.
>
> ?I have been studying the branches of vedanga in hopes of developing a
> greater understanding of vedic wisdom, the sacred language & to grow
closer
> to the divine. My resources for an education of Sanskrit Grammar are
limited
> to the internet & a used copy of Arthur A. Macdonell's book 'A
Sanskrit
> Grammar : For Students'
>
> I have developed a great passion for comprehending the devotional hymns
> composed by sri adi shankaracharya, which directs my focus more towrads
> chandas vedanga (metering), I understand that Nirukta, Shiksha and
> especially Vyakarana Vedanga may more approriate prerequisites to such
great
> understanding.
>
> My Question is this: I am uneducated on the process of compounding two
words
> in sanskrit. I would like to know how to compound the name Shiva , of
> obvious reference and the word Aushadhi (referring to a medicinal
> herb/psychotropic/shamanic plant),
>
> I have some understanding of transliteration and have been trying to learn
> using Spokensanskrit.de and ITRANS. Based upon my best guess after
reviewing
> different possibilities , I write it as : shivaushadhi , or shivaaushadhi
> and in devanagari like the results here:
>
> http://spokensanskrit.de/ttest.php?text=shivaaushadhi
>
> I apologize if I have not worded my question coherently but I am very new
to
> undestanding this language and system of writing. I am greatly humbled by
> the passionate experts within this community and acknowledge your time as
> valuable. Please know that I would not ask a question before trying to
> resolve it on my own.
>
>
> I greatly appreciate anytime spent in helping me understand.? Perhaps this
> process may be difficult to explain in great technical detail but I would
> appreciate the slightest bit of help. If one could please inform me how to
> properly combined these two words , it would enable me to have a sort of
> 'answer key' for finding the solution on my own.
>
>
>
> Bless You All for your sacred time. In honor of this community and my
> respect for each member ,? I will give great praise to Kaalbhairava for
the
> proper effecient utilization of time so that we may not waste even a
single
> moment.
>
> I will also recite the third stanza of the? Sashakthi Shiva Navakam ,
which
> I read before pursuing all? of my studies. Please, take a moment to read
the
> translation of this amazing hymn here:
> http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Sashakthi_Shiva_Navakam
>
> stanza # 3 of Sashakthi Shiva Navakam
>
> Meemsayaam samasthatam, sabdha sasthre viseshatha,
> Dehi mey deva sambragnam, Iym Nama Kleem Shivaya sou. 3
>
> In all the aspects of analysis of knowledge,
> Especially in the science of phonetics,
> Grant me expertise,
> Iym, Kleem, Salutations Shiva (the infinite goodness of divine
> conscioussness) Universal Manifestation
>
> Thank you again for your time and patience with such a beginner as me. I
> look forward to a greater education and understanding through fthe
> fellowship of this community.
>
> -Dan 'Shivaushadhi' (until proven grammatically incorrect)
>
>
>
> Note:? I am leaving for one week on friday and likely will not have
internet
> access until the first of August but I will be anxiously watching my inbox
> until the time I leave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
> and follow instructions.
>
>
--
Mihir M Sanghavi
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:53:43 -0500
From: Vishvas Vasuki
Subject: [Sanskrit] [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
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My name causes me to ask the following question:
yadi vasudevasya apatyaM pumaan vaasudevaH, vaasukeH apatyaM pumaan kaH?
--
Vishvas
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:19:17 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman"
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Bulk] [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List"
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vaasukI apatyam puman vaasukEyaH|
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vishvas Vasuki"
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List"
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: [Bulk] [Sanskrit] [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction
> My name causes me to ask the following question:
>
> yadi vasudevasya apatyaM pumaan vaasudevaH, vaasukeH apatyaM pumaan kaH?
>
>
> --
> Vishvas
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:10:28 +0530
From: kamalesh pathak
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] where to re-start
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
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Mihir Sanghavi ji
i am kamlesh pathak from Somnath Gujrat i too want to know about the book of
sri M.R.Kale. do me a favour to send your tips on my email I.D.
kamleshsomn...@gmail.com
i am traditional brahmin and old age student of sanskrit. though i am
performing all type poojas to pilgrimes here i like to learn more and more
the Sanskrit so that i can reach the depth of the secrets of karmakAnda and
possibly can trans-spread a proper message to all devotees.
with warm regards and jay somanath.
kamalesh pathak
On 12/07/2009, Mihir Sanghavi
wrote:
>
> Dear Avnish,
>
> it will be imperative that your basic skills be rock-solid. Just
> because one has laukika reading capacity, does not not mean that
> he/she has rock-solid basic skills. I would suggest that you read M.R.
> Kale's A Higher Sanskrit Grammar from the beginning (the more you know
> the faster you will go through the book). That way you ensure that
> later on when you read serious Sanskrit texts and Siddhanta Kaumudi
> grammar, you will waste minimum amount of time referring back to the
> grammar. If you decide to start with Kale's book, let me know because
> there are some tips I have regarding the order in which the book
> should be read in my experience.
>
> Best,
>
> Mihir
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:59 AM, graceful person
> wrote:
> > dear scholars,
> >
> > i had studied sanskrit as a part of my curriculum for four years ,
> > which was about eight years back. Still i can read and understand the
> > normal stuff ( what we call as laukik sanskrit ). I seek your
guidance
> > about where to restart or refresh my knowledge of sanskrit and
atleast
> > develop some amount of speaking fluency.
> >
> > thanks in advance
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > renounce every that thing which limits you to work less than your
> capacity
> >
> > Avnish kumar mishra
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > nothing is always wrong, even a clock which has stopped working is
> > right twice a day
> > _______________________________________________
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest,
> visit
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mihir M Sanghavi
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:37:43 +0530 (IST)
From: Prasanta Mahala
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] where to re-start
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you can purchage the book ofM.R.Kale 'A HIGHER SANSKRIT GRAMMAR' from MOTILAL
BANARSIDAS.Bungalow Road.Jawahar Nagar,Delhi-110007
--- On Sat, 25/7/09, kamalesh pathak wrote:
From: kamalesh pathak
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] where to re-start
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List"
Date: Saturday, 25 July, 2009, 9:40 AM
Mihir Sanghavi ji
i am kamlesh pathak from Somnath Gujrat i too want to know about the book of
sri M.R.Kale. do me a favour to send your tips on my email I.D.
kamleshsomn...@gmail.com
i am traditional brahmin and old age student of sanskrit. though i am
performing all type poojas to pilgrimes here i like to learn more and more the
Sanskrit so that i can reach the depth of the secrets of karmakAnda and
possibly can?trans-spread a proper message to all devotees.
with warm regards and jay somanath.
kamalesh pathak?
?
On 12/07/2009, Mihir Sanghavi
wrote:
Dear Avnish,
it will be imperative that your basic skills be rock-solid. Just
because one has laukika reading capacity, does not not mean that
he/she has rock-solid basic skills. I would suggest that you read M.R.
Kale's A Higher Sanskrit Grammar from the beginning (the more you know
the faster you will go through the book). That way you ensure that
later on when you read serious Sanskrit texts and Siddhanta Kaumudi
grammar, you will waste minimum amount of time referring back to the
grammar. If you decide to start with Kale's book, let me know because
there are some tips I have regarding the order in which the book
should be read in my experience.
Best,
Mihir
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:59 AM, graceful person wrote:
> dear scholars,
>
> i had studied sanskrit as a part of my curriculum for four years ,
> which was about eight years back. Still i can read and understand the
> normal stuff ( what we call as laukik sanskrit ). I seek your guidance
> about where to restart or refresh my knowledge of sanskrit and atleast
> develop some amount of speaking fluency.
>
> thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
> --
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> renounce every that thing which limits you to work less than your capacity
>
> Avnish kumar mishra
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> nothing is always wrong, even a clock which has stopped working is
> right twice a day
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
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>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:45:27 +0530
From: "Ganesan"
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction
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vaasukerapatyaM pumaan vAsukeyaH.
Dr.T.Ganesan
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From: "Vishvas Vasuki"
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Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:23 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction
> My name causes me to ask the following question:
>
> yadi vasudevasya apatyaM pumaan vaasudevaH, vaasukeH apatyaM pumaan kaH?
>
>
> --
> Vishvas
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:38:14 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [grammar] apatyaM pumaaN construction
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Quoting Vishvas Vasuki :
> My name causes me to ask the following question:
>
> yadi vasudevasya apatyaM pumaan vaasudevaH, vaasukeH apatyaM pumaan kaH?
vaasukyo vaasukiiyo vaa iti mama matiH/
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:23:20 -0400
From: Avinash L Varna
Subject: [Sanskrit] [General] vishvavANyAH nUtanA sa~jchikA
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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namo namaH
vishvavANI is an online samskrita-patrikA that is published thrice a year by
campus samskritam network (http://www.speaksanskrit.org) The latest issue of
the patrikA has been published today and is available at
http://www.speaksanskrit.org/vishvavani.shtml
Please see the announcement
below.
(Direct all enquiries to the editors at vishvav...@speaksanskrit.org)
saadaram,
avinAshaH
------------------------------------------
?????????????,
???????????? ????? ??????? ???? ????????? ? ??????? ???? ?????? :
http://www.speaksanskrit.org/vishvavani.shtml
????? ????????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ? ????????? ???????????? ?? ?????
????? ???? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ? ??????? ??????????????? ?????,
?????????? ????? ????? ????????????? ? ?????????
vishvav...@speaksanskrit.org
????? ????????????? ?
?????????
namassarvebhyaH,
vishvavANyAH nUtanA sa~jcikA adya prakASitaa | patrikA atra labhyate :
http://www.speaksanskrit.org/vishvavani.shtml
kRupayA samayAvakASe prApte patrikA paThyataam | anavadhaanaat alpaj~jAnAt
vaa doShAH kRutaaH chet te vidvadbhiH kShantavyaaH | asmAkaM
j~jAnavardhanArthaM doShAH, patrikAyAH viShaye bhavataaM pratispandAH ca
patrarUpeNa vishvav...@speaksanskrit.org
prati preShyantAm |
dhanyavAdAH
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:12:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: V Srini
Subject: [Sanskrit] Complete works of Shankaracharya
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I received email from Samata publishers asking for help. They are selling
original Sanskrit "Complete Works of Shankaracharya" a 10-volume
series for 4000 rupees. In the past I paid 12,000 rupees for the same plus
Fedex international priority to USA. I read portions of some of those books; I
can say every penny of the money I spent is well spent. These books are reprint
of original "Vani Vilas Press" version. In my opinion, even if you
are not very proficient in Sanskrit right now, I would say seize this
opportunity and obtain these books. Consider it a rare privilege to possess
these books. In a few years, there won't be any publisher able to or willing to
print these books. If you can afford, please pay as much money as you can (more
than 4000 rupees I mean), to the publisher, for these books.
I am enclosing the email I received from the publisher. Note that I have NO
financial interest in this while thing.
------ Email from publisher ----------------
Dear Mr.Srinivas,
Namaste,
How are You? Hope you remember me. This is Krishna from SAMATA
BOOKS. Hope the books were useful for you. Would anyone there be
interested in our Publications? We are going thru a very bad phase.
Especially if there are someone interested in our COMPLETE WORKS OF ADI
SANKARACHARYA in SANSKRIT. The set is priced at Rs.4,000/- Sorry for
bothering You, Possible please help me. Thanking you in advance,
Regards,
Krishna V
www.samatabooks.com
0091-94440 10706
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: V Srini
Subject: [Sanskrit] Email id for Samata : Complete works of
Shankaracharya
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Regarding my earlier email on these books, a few people requested email ID of
the publisher. Here it is. samatabo...@gmail.com
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:47:03 +0530
From: "Ar.Goki la"
Subject: [Sanskrit] arg...@gmail.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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this mail is regarding the registration of my e-mail id.
With warm regards,
Goki
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:29:50 -0500
From: "Pankaj Gupta"
Subject: [Sanskrit] [Literature] All Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads and so
on
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Just wanted to share this link
1) Contains pdfs of all Vedas, Upanishads, Mahabharat, Ramayan, Puranas and
so on:
http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/
2) Tons of crystal clear audio renditions of Sanskrit Texts:
http://www.prapatti.com/slokas/slokasbycategory.html
Thanks
Pankaj
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:48:15 -0500
From: Vishvas Vasuki
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Literature] All Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads
and so on
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
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Veda MP3's: ???????????????? ??? ???????????? (
http://www.uppathil.net/Pages/vedams.htm
) ????????? ??????????????
????????????????? ???????? mp3 ????????
--
Vishvas
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Pankaj
Gupta
wrote:
> Just wanted to share this link
>
> 1) Contains pdfs of all Vedas, Upanishads, Mahabharat, Ramayan, Puranas
and
> so on:
> http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/
>
>
> 2) Tons of crystal clear audio renditions of Sanskrit Texts:
> http://www.prapatti.com/slokas/slokasbycategory.html
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:36:26 +0530
From: SHRINIVASA VARAKHEDI
Subject: [Sanskrit] Sanskrit Week celebrations at Hyd
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Dear All,
Best wishes on the occasion of Shravana Poornima - Sanskrit Day
Celebrations.
Following the tradition Sanskrit Academy, Sanskrit Bharati and other
Sanskrit organizations are observing Sanskrit Week celebrations starting
from August 2 to August 8th in the city. Various programs are planned
everyday.
Date - 2-8-2009 - Venue - Sanskrit Academy, OU campus - Inauguration and
Lecture by Sri SPRV Chaturvedi Swamiji.
Date - 3-8-2009 - Venue - Sanskrit Academy, OU campus - Ramayana Pravachanam
by Kandadai Ramanujacharya.
Date - 4-8-2009 - Venue - Sanskrit Academy, OU campus - Sahitya Goshthi
presided over by Prof.R.Srihari.
Date - 5-8-2009 - Venue - Tyagaraya gana Sabha, Koti - Spl lecture by
Kuppa
Krishnamurthy Shastry
Date - 6-8-2009 - Venue - Ravindra Bharati, near Public gardens - Lecture on
Uttararamacharitam by Dr.S.varakhedi.
Date - 7-8-2009 - Venue - Ravindra Bharati, near Public gardens -
Gitavadhanam and Gitagovindam.
Date - 8-8-2009 - Venue - Ravindra Bharati, near Public gardens -
Concluding day - Children program.
All are wellcome. Kindly make it convenient to attend the program and make
it a success.
--
warm regards,
shri.varakhedi
-----------------------------------------
Dr. Shrinivasa Varakhedi
Director, Sanskrit Academy
(Adarsh Shodh Sansthan - recognised Research Center by the Rashtriya
Sanskrit Sansthan, MHRD. Govt. of India)
Osmania University, Hyderabad.
-----------------
Formerly Faculty of Shabdabodha & Language Technology
Sansk-net Center
Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha Deemed University
Tirupati 517507
Mobile : +91-9490061741
Land Off : +91-40-27070281
Land Res: +91-40-20050506
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warm regards,
shri.varakhedi
-----------------------------------------
Dr. Shrinivasa Varakhedi
Director, Sanskrit Academy
(Adarsh Shodh Sansthan - recognised Research Center by the Rashtriya
Sanskrit Sansthan, MHRD. Govt. of India)
Osmania University, Hyderabad.
-----------------
Formerly Faculty of Shabdabodha & Language Technology
Sansk-net Center
Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha Deemed University
Tirupati 517507
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Land Off : +91-40-27070281
Land Res: +91-40-20050506
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:11:59 +0530
From: Ashok Karnik
Subject: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:53:22 +0530
From: anupam srivatsav
Subject: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
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Dear All,
Namaste.
Can anyone pls decline Upanishad shabda ? I require this for some
writing.
With regards and thanks in advance,
Anupam.
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:41:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: umahise...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
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Namaste,
upani.sad? --is ?halanta feminine word ( see bRRihatashabdakusumaakara)
Therefore the word will be like ' aapad '
Usha Mahisekar
??????? ??? ???? ????
?????? ??????? ??????? ???????
????????? ??????? ??????? ???????
???????? ???????? ??????? ???????
?????? ??????? ????????????? ??????????
??????? ??????? ????????????? ???????????
?????? ??????? ????????????? ???????????
????? ??????? ???????? ?????????
?????? ??????? ???????? ?????????
----- Original Message -----
From: "anupam srivatsav"
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List"
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:23:22 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
Dear All,
Namaste.
Can anyone pls decline Upanishad shabda ? ?I require this for some writing.
With regards and thanks in advance,
Anupam.
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:46:53 -0700
From: Ajit Krishnan
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
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namaste,
In prathamA vibhakti ekavacana, why doesn't it have the optional form
'upaniShad'?
( Since the mail ended up being formatted badly, I'm providing the
original link --
http://sanskrit.inria.fr/cgi-bin/sktdeclin?q=upani.sad&g=Fem&font=deva
)
bhavadiiyaH,
ajit
2009/8/12 :
> Namaste,
>
>
>
> upani.sad? --is ?halanta feminine word ( see bRRihatashabdakusumaakara)
>
> Therefore the word will be like ' aapad '
>
> Usha Mahisekar
>
>
>
> ??????????????????
> ????????????? ??????? ???????
> ???????????????? ??????? ???????
> ???????????????? ??????? ???????
> ????????????? ????????????? ??????????
> ?????????????? ????????????? ???????????
> ????????????? ????????????? ???????????
> ???????????? ???????? ?????????
> ????????????? ???????? ?????????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "anupam srivatsav"
> To: "Sanskrit Mailing List"
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:23:22 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
>
> Dear All,
> Namaste.
>
> Can anyone pls decline Upanishad shabda ? ?I require this for some
writing.
>
> With regards and thanks in advance,
> Anupam.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:58:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: umahise...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
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Namaste,
Yes, It could have optional? in prathama ekavacan
Usha Mahisekar
upani.sad??/ upani.sat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ajit Krishnan"
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List"
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:46:53 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
namaste,
In prathamA vibhakti ekavacana, why doesn't it have the optional form
'upaniShad'?
( Since the mail ended up being formatted badly, I'm providing the
original link --
http://sanskrit.inria.fr/cgi-bin/sktdeclin?q=upani.sad&g=Fem&font=deva
)
bhavadiiyaH,
?? ? ajit
2009/8/12 ?:
> Namaste,
>
>
>
> upani.sad? --is ?halanta feminine word ( see bRRihatashabdakusumaakara)
>
> Therefore the word will be like ' aapad '
>
> Usha Mahisekar
>
>
>
> ??????????????????
> ????????????? ??????? ???????
> ???????????????? ??????? ???????
> ???????????????? ??????? ???????
> ????????????? ????????????? ??????????
> ?????????????? ????????????? ???????????
> ????????????? ????????????? ???????????
> ???????????? ???????? ?????????
> ????????????? ???????? ?????????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "anupam srivatsav"
> To: "Sanskrit Mailing List"
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:23:22 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Upanishad Shabda
>
> Dear All,
> Namaste.
>
> Can anyone pls decline Upanishad shabda ? ?I require this for some
writing.
>
> With regards and thanks in advance,
> Anupam.
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:16:59 -0400
From: Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Origin of pANini 's mAheshvara sUtrANi [was:
sanskrit Digest, Vol 52, Issue 1]
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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An admin note --
1. Please use more descriptive subject headings rather than "Sanskrit Digest
etc." Those who receive mail in digest mode should edit the subject line to
reflect the thread to which they are replying.
2. Delete all other portions of the digest and retain only relevant parts.
Makes for easier reading.
Thanks,
Naresh
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Shreyas P. Munshi <
shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
> I totally agree with Dr Vimala Sarma. Respecting our mythology is one
> thing; and scientific analysis another.
>
> My humble submission is that while studying the subtle aspects of a
> language (or of any subject), it is not good to mix it up with mythology,
> lest it may reduce the importance of the researcher?s work. A similar story
> goes round for the great poet Kalidasa and goddess Kali also.
>
> Lord Shiva is also associated by admirers of Aadi Shankaraachaarya calling
> him a ?rebirth? of Lord Shiva; and seeing the work has done, it would
> virtually seem to be the fact!
>
> As Swami Chinmayanand has explained, Shiva (Lord Shiva) is the embodiment,
> a personification of the 'Absolute Consciousness' principle. Every
> experience of every living entity is illuminated by this Principle; and it
> gets reflected variously according to the constitution of the object on
> which the Principle 'throws' light.
>
> Respected KNR can analyse the subtle aspects of the language much better
> than an uninitiated person like me because the constitution of his
> body-mind-intellect equipment is more evolved; in this sense Lord Shiva
> dances before him also; and probably before me also; but my equipment is not
> fine-tuned as NRK's. Panin's equipment was probably very highly fine-tuned;
> otherwise not only these 12 sounds but the brilliant ashtaadhyaayi would
> also not have found ?form'.
>
> Like what NRK?s story describes as a dance of Shiva, there is a story about
> the scientist Kekule who discovered the closed ring compounds in organic
> chemistry. Toeing the line of open chain compounds, Kekule was not able to
> answer his own questions. He thought and thought and thought, and when he
> fell asleep he dreamt of a snake catching his own tail! And that is how he
> discovered Benzene as the ring compound, and then rationalized the alternate
> double bonds of the tetravalent carbon in Benzene?s molecular formula C6H6.
> It would seem, Lord Shiva,came in Kekule?s dream also! And yes, I believe,
> Lord Shiva will always come to anyone in the world if his intellect is fully
> immersed in his enquiry.
>
> Towards the same thinking, the following is just one of the selected
> extracts of copy-paste transfers from pages of (Indian) REPORT OF THE
> SANSKRIT COMMISSION 1956-57, which says that Professor Renou, concluding his
> recent review of Indian Studies, says:
> Quote:
> ? the rigour of the scientific method is something to which the average
> Pandit does not submit himself easily or with enthusiasm. This leads to a
> ?dilution of the standard', and when persisted in, brings into being a body
> of pseudo- scientific workers and scholars.
> Unquote
> Care needs to be taken for not reducing PANINI?s genius as a grammarian and
> perhaps the world?s first (known) phonetician.
>
> Submitted in all humility?Shreyas
>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:18:41 +0530 wrote
> >
>
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