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   1. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 55, Issue 16 (hn bhat)
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   3. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 55, Issue 16 (Vimala Sarma)
   4. Re: Six Types of paaNini sUtras (rules) (hn bhat)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:07:27 +0530
From: hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 55, Issue 16
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> Should it not have a long y?* *- sudhy?p?sya??
>
> Apologies
>
> Vimala
>

Pardon me,

Can you please explain why it should have? long ? ?

So far I can understand, the above is an internal sandhi in a compound
formed of ??????? ??????? with the rules of compound formation loosing the
inflections, it becoms ???? + ?????? >> again in declined compound word
becomes ???????????? | I can't see any possibility for long ?.
"
With apologies

-- 
Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
EFEO,
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:22:03 +0530
From: hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 55, Issue 16
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Now, this is prohibited by the ?Vartika? which avoids the function of this
>> Lopa prescribed by the above Sutra, in respect of the consonants `????(y, v, 
>> r, l) and the function does not apply in this case.
>>
>> This prohibition in the Vartika, is applicable in the case of other
>> examples also MadhvariH, dhaatraMshaH (which you have omitted) and
>> LaadeshaH.
>>
>> A Vartika is defined as ?????????????????????????????? ???????? the
>> sentence amending the Paninian Sutra-s, analyzing the functions prescribed,
>> not prescribed or wrongly prescribed in them. It is this aspect, you have
>> missed in your explanation.
>>
>>
>> I am sorry I forgot to highlight the "Vartika" portion even though it is
already quoted in your post, without recognizing its significance. Here
again I quote it *"??? ????????? ??????"* and it is not seen interpreted in
your posting. It simply says that it needs be said that the  SaMyogantyalopa
is to be prohibited in respect of the consonants included in the
'*pratyahara''
???? *
It is because of this prohibition that the Lopa didn't take place and not
because of the two rules you have quoted.

Thanks for the explanations.



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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:06:35 +1100
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 55, Issue 16
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Sorry ? you are right. It is a short u.

Vimala

 

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Should it not have a long y? - sudhy?p?sya??

Apologies

Vimala

 

Pardon me,

 

Can you please explain why it should have? long ? ? 

 

So far I can understand, the above is an internal sandhi in a compound formed 
of ??????? ??????? with the rules of compound formation loosing the 
inflections, it becoms ???? + ?????? >> again in declined compound word becomes 
???????????? | I can't see any possibility for long ?.

"

With apologies

 

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Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
EFEO,
PONDICHERRY

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:15:00 +0530
From: hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Six Types of paaNini sUtras (rules)
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Sai Susarla,

As requested by you I am herewith offering my explanations on these:

*Six Types of paaNini sUtras (rules)*
paaNini has defined various types of sUtras (rules) and their interplay to
suit his purpose. Some sUtras

1. define terms (*saMj~naa*)

2.   explain how to interpret other sUtras (*paribhAShA*)

3.   are rules, i.e., generalizations in their true sense (injunctions or *
vidhi*)

4.   restricts the application of another rule (*niyama*) - (I'm not sure
about this)

5.   describe a special case exception to another rule (*atidesha*)

6.   defines the area/domain of applicability of another rule (*adhikaara*)



*?????? ? ??????? ? ?????????? ?? ?**
**???????????????? ??????? ?????????????*

Can somebody explain if I captured these correctly? What's the difference
between niyama, atidesha and adhikaara sUtras?
Quiz: For each of the rules I introduce below, please tell me which rule
type it is.



The most common other *paribh???* -s useful in the interpretation of the S?
tra-s are listed below:

?.?.?? ???????? ??????

1.1.46 ?dyantau ?akitau | (The augmentations prescribed with ?-it, and k-it
are to be augmented to the initial and final position of the unit to which
it is prescribed.)



?.?.?? ??????????????????

1.1.47 midaco'nty?tpara? |(The one with m-it is to be augmented next to the
final *ac (vowel).*



?.?.?? ?? ???????????????

1.1.48 eca igghrasv?de?e | (In the case of the substitution of `hrasva? in
the place of EC (e-o-ai-au) the IK vowels will replace them.)



?.?.?? ????? ???????????

1.1.49 ?a??h? sth?neyog? |(The substitution prescribed will be positioned in
the place of the object (the word denoting it) used in the ????? )
Literally, the *?a??h?* used in the sense of in the place of. In effect, the
substitution is prescribed to the word denoted in the *?a??h?* vibhakti.



?.?.?? ???????????????

1.1.50 sth?ne'ntaratama? |(The replacement will be very much similar, in *
sth**?**na, prayatna* and prayatna)



?.?.?? ???? ?????

1.1.51 ura? rapara? |(The replacement of ? will always be augmented with r.)



?.?.?? ?????????????

1.1.52 alo'ntyasya | (The replacement in the place of a AL (covers all the
vowels and consonants) will be effected to the last one.



?.?.?? ??????

1.1.53 ?icca |(The replacement prescribed with ?-it, will also effected to
the finale AL.



?.?.?? ???? ??????

1.1.54 ?de? parasya | (The replacement to the following or next unit,
*para*will be effected to the initial position(of it).



?.?.?? ???????????????????

1.1.55 anek?l?itsarvasya | (The substitution with more than one vowel or ?-it,
will take place for the whole (to which it is prescribed)



These are paribh???-s governing the substitution of consonants and vowels.
Because of these, you get the meaning given in the Vritti-s of the S?tra-s.
Now, to come to the S?tra prescribing `ya?? for ?ik? var?a-s, ???? ????? the
rule ?.?.?? ????? ??????????? operates to interpret the ????? used in the
Sutra, ikaH rendering it to interpret as in the place of IK (?-?-?- ?)

the varNa-s ??? (?-?-?-?) are to be substituted.

The other *paribh**???*  already quoted, ???????????? ?????????? ????????? (
*?????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ??????????? ??????????? ???????? ???????*
* ) *also operates to interpret the word in *saptam?*   in the S?tra
?????. Thus
it makes the substitution, the immediately preceding varNa, to the one used
in *saptam?*. [??????????????????????] ??????????? ?????? ??? ??????, ???
??? (before a vowel). As it happens, there are two IK varNa-s, in s*U*-dh*I
*in the preceding word. This rule, makes it to be applied the I only as it
is the immediately preceding IK for which substitution of YAN is prescribed.
And also it makes the rule liable for interpretation as when there is AC
immediately follows. ????????????????????????????? ??? ???. When the rule is
made applicable to the immediately preceding vowel IK, it follows that the
nimitta or ac also should follow immediately. Now, there is only one
*S?tra*needed for the completion of the interpretation of the
*S?tra*.

As *???* ?????? *???* ?????? *???* *?????????** ?????*  in the case *??????*
*. From where do you get this word?  *Now, I think, this has to take the
help of  the Adhik?ra *S**?**tra* ?.?.?? ??????????  which follows up
to 6\.1\.77
th *S**?**tra* ??? ???? and above in the Ashtadhyaayi  order. Thus, it makes
this function application when there is *sa**?**hit**?* which has already
defined in your preceding post.  Now almost all the types are applied to
interpret this  *S**?**tra* ??? ????. Which itself if Vidhi s?tra. Which is
interepreted with the help of ?????? ??????? and ??????. Now only remaining
are the two types ????: and ???????| Now it should be clear that all these
are rules with different functions we have already noted. Niyama is the
restriction of a function ruled by another S?tra. It may be either Agama,
Adesha, Lopa or any function of any other rule. Now, ?*niyama*?  cannot be
illustrated, with a general rule applicable. There is a ?????? called GHI
defined by the *S**?**tra* ?.?.? ???? ??????? which defines this for words
ending in short I excepting Sakhi. Now this is restricted in the case of the
`pati?  when it is used in compound words only and avoids when it is used
alone. This is a type of Niyama. Atidesha is the extension of a function or
form (k?rya or r?pa) than its normal place of operation. The function of the
the functions applicable in the case of the lakaara- la? is applied in the
case of lo? . All the functions are extended to lo?. In the same way, ???????
????? ???????, ????, ???????????? ?????, ???? etc. are the cases of
Atidesha-s of form. It is different from Adesha and Agama-s in that much
that Adesha-s and Aagama-s are applicable to VarNa-s. Atidesha is applicable
to the extension of functions or form readymade. The difference betwwen
Adesha and Agama is explained as `???????? ?????, ???????? ????? The Adesha
replaces the one in the place like the enemy who comes to ones house
throwing him out, whereas the Aagama is like a guest who will be hosted by
the householder.
*------------------------*
*E & O E *

-- 
Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
EFEO,
PONDICHERRY
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