RE: My very last word.

[Ravi Sharma]

Nilofer, Please unsubscribe me from the list. I apologize for any 
inconvenience to  any on this List!

Best Wishes to everyone!

Ravi


From: "Mona Mehta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My very last word.
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:40:34 +0000
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Note to ALL: Please pardon me if this is clogging your inbox, as I am aware of this nuisance. It will be my last email. I want to convey to all SPAC members who are reading this that this is not meant to be a personal duel between Ravi Sharma and me. I feel that there are some ideals that SAPAC stands for and when things are said through its list that run counter to those ideals, it is important to speak out and take a stand. The views expressed below are my personal views. 
 
 
Ravi,
    Since you continue to raise questions about Romila Thapar�s work quoting what I said in my previous emails and have made some egregious statements, I feel compelled to respond. Out of your own admission, you have never read Thapar�s work because apparently you found from a distance that "it stinks". Despite never having read her book you think it is alright to write at least 10 emails about why you disagree with its contents. Either you think that the SAPAC list is a big joke and you can right whatever comes to your mind without basing it in any real facts and clog people�s inboxes OR you just have a lot of free time and you think it is perfectly alright to waste other people�s time. 
      Fortunately or unfortunately, it does not take too much imagination to see through your emails that you are clearly an unabashed supporter of Hindutva despite all your psuedo glorious talk about being neither on the left, right or center. If indeed it is true that you are not committed to any side, it is even worse because people like you will have no qualms about supporting even what is universally condemned as wrong. You constantly ask questions like why only blame the BJP? Why not focus on the Muslim Right? You then bash intellectuals and left activists, arguing that Thapar should be condemned for being a leftist intellectual. All this, coupled with your politically insensitive and ignorant statements about Muslims like �all present day Muslims must apologize for Babar and Ghazni� expose you as the most blatant s!
upporter of the very forces of religious bigotry that SAPAC is fighting against. The thing about being a closeted Hindutva person is that it can�t remain a secret for long � once you start opening your mouth, the truth is all too apparent. You are in fact misusing the goodwill of open and progressive groups like SAPAC who allow people clearly opposed to its ideals, such as yourself, to speak through its forum. 
     At this point I think I will only say this: I only hope that you will at some future time see the danger of your views to India�s democratic secular nationhood. If there are members of SAPAC who feel strongly about this debate, I encourage them to take a public stand on this issue. Thank you all for your patience.
 
Best,
Mona Mehta
 
>From: "Ravi Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: Folks 
>Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:19:09 -0600 
> 
> 
> 
>You can't expect a patient to understand the composition of a drug 
>before taking it, as their assumption is that it passed through 
>various studies and governmental controls. 
> 
>But what about the therories put forth by Historians such as Ms. 
>Romila Thapar, who is a political activist with leftist leanings ? 
> 
>Mona, If Ms. Thapar has a chair at the Library of Congress, I also 
>have a chair at work and many more in my apartment ;-() 
> 
>There's no control to verify her analytical assumptions and many on 
>this list don't even have the time or patience to hear/tolerate 
>critical views. 
> 
>I just hope Romila's work is not the "Bible" for this group! 
> 
>If "leftist thinking" is supposed to be impartial then we must also 
>assume the same of  the "white guy." 
> 
>It's my understanding of history and human nature, that groups of 
>people tend to think their "Idea" of a nation or nation building is 
>the panacea for a perfect society. Each one of these live in a 
>virtual land of fantasy and if indeed they succeed, each and every 
>one of them have shown the tendency to degenerate! 
> 
>I can also talk about the fights between the Srivaishnava and Shaiva 
>"Brahmins" in south India. 
> 
>Talking about India, specifically, It has been a land of diverse 
>cultures but with a common and harmonious philosophy. It didn't take 
>much for them to accept people of all faiths that migrated from time 
>to time, Zorastrians for example. 
> 
>What is required of us, as groups or individuals, is to be receptive 
>to the sensitivities and practices of every religion, ideology or 
>beliefs. If 
> 
>Speaking for myself, I am looking for an intellectual exchange and 
>critical Analysis of Issues with all the due respect and treatment 
>they deserve. 
> 
>I wouldn't like to be part of any group that has already assumed 
>itself to be of ANY RIGHT or ANY LEFT or ANY CENTER! 
> 
>However, I have this one liner: 
>Is SAPAC an "intellectual" front for the "Muslim Right" supported by 
>leftist ideologies ? 
> 
>Niloufer made me wonder as she spoke only about the "Hindu Right" ? 
> 
>Thanks for your time! 
>Ravi 
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