>You recognized some changes which where done in 7.4.
> > Logmode:
> > 7.3 LOG_MODE=SINGLE => 7.4.current LOG_MODE=SINGLE => > 7.4.develop LOG_MIRRORED=NO
> 7.3 LOG_MODE=DUAL => 7.4.current LOG_MODE=DUAL => > 7.4.develop LOG_MIRRORED=YES
> 7.3 LOG_MODE=DEMO => 7.4.current disabled/removed => > 7.4.develop LOG_BACKUP=NO (default: YES)
> >
Could this be why there are some problems creating database instances with dbmgui? Old parameters not accepted and new parameters not implemented?
DbmGui version - 7.4.2.6 on Win2k
SAPDB 7.4.3.7 Build 007-000-030-320 on RedHat 8.0 (rpm install)

Initialize parameters with defaults - Instance type OLTP
Edit Log Mode to DUAL
50 Meg Data
20 Meg Log
Restore or Install instance creates the following error at 'Initialize installation'
==============
DBMWiz (event)
An error occurs by installing database 'TEST'!
-24988 sql error [util_execute INIT CONFIG]; -8888, connection broken
==============

Don't start over, just backup to step 4 (Choose the mode of parameter initialization)
Choose same options again
Do not edit any parameters (we only edited the log mode the first time and we end up with log mode single by default)
Enter same Data and Log sizes
Both a restore or install work.

Same steps using a database installation on Win2k works.
DbmGui version - 7.4.2.6 on Win2k
SAPDB Version 7.4.3.7 Build 007-000-155-373 on Win2k


You also can't change to any mode not single after creation with the DBMGUI against the above Linux 7.4 beta install.

Ron Lepine

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Hahn, Uwe wrote:
If you use logmode=demo you are loosing your log backup history and so log backups are not permitted.
This is true for all releases where "demo" is available.
The same is true if log writing is disabled.
So "demo" writes to the log device but the does not need to be saved. The log can always be overridden until the last savepoint position.

"log writing off" is new in 7.4 and hast no equivalence in <=7.3 and hast nothing to do with log backups.

regards
Uwe


-----Original Message-----
From: Warga (ext_Zip) Marco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 11:06
To: Hahn, Uwe; 'Watz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question on 7.4 LOG_MODE


Ok thanks for the detailed explanation :)

Lets see if I got it right...

The LOG_MODE=DEMO in SAPDB <= 7.3 did indeed save logs needed to get to the
last commit state after restart but not archive those in the log devspace
that were created before the last savepoint (and therefore not necessary for
restart anymore) ?

And does SINGLE/OFF in the current 7.4 DBM GUI correspond to the previous
SINGLE/DEMO setting (for now, until the final 7.4 release) ?
Or is actually log saving diabled with this setting and I cannot make any
persistent changes (lost after shutdown/restart) until I set it back to
SINGLE for now until you have LOG_BACKUP=NO ready in february?

One more question...will the log devspace still be needed in 7.4 for the
LOG_BACKUP=NO and the new "switching off log writing" setting?



-----Original Message-----
From: Hahn, Uwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 10:09
To: 'Watz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question on 7.4 LOG_MODE


You recognized some changes which where done in 7.4.

Logmode:

7.3 LOG_MODE=SINGLE => 7.4.current LOG_MODE=SINGLE => 7.4.develop LOG_MIRRORED=NO
7.3 LOG_MODE=DUAL => 7.4.current LOG_MODE=DUAL => 7.4.develop LOG_MIRRORED=YES
7.3 LOG_MODE=DEMO => 7.4.current disabled/removed => 7.4.develop LOG_BACKUP=NO (default: YES)

In addition 7.4 knows a very risky feature. You can switch off log writing for transactions. But you have to be aware that you commit changes and they are NOT durable because a restart resets the database state to the last savepoint. This is the main difference between switing off log writing and LOG_BACKUP=NO (previously known as logmode=demo). In the last case you can recover to the last commit written to the log.

Shutdown:

7.4 does not know the SHUTDOWN QUICK. There is only one shutdown which changes the kernels state to offline.
7.4.current: If during shutdown there are open write transactions these transactions receive a cancel request and are forced to rollback. The shutdown waits until the REQUEST_TIMEOUT is reached and then a savepoint with reason=shutdown is triggered and the kernel becomes offline.
7.4.develop: The kernel writes the savepoint with reason=shutdown and switches to offline immediatly. This behaviour normally makes it obsolete to call db_stop.

regards
Uwe


-----Original Message-----
From: Watz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 00:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question on 7.4 LOG_MODE


Hi,

I was wondering if the DEMO logmode was removed in SAPDB
7.4. Instead
of SINGLE/DEMO theres now a SINGLE/OFF setting in DBM GUI,
and setting
the database to SINGLE/OFF switched off the log indeed

but the old
parameter LOG_MODE still stays on SINGLE and not DEMO like in the previous versions (?). Is the LOG_MODE parameter not used
anymore in
7.4 ?

And another thing....is just the "Stop" button on the
database shutdown dialog in DBM GUI removed for 7.4 installations or is the actual db_stop DBM server command disabled for those ?
Previously the box had something like "shutdown/shutdown quick/cancel" as far as I remember.

I migrated an R/3 testdrive installation successfully from
SAPDB 7.3 to 7.4 today (with a new dbadaslib though to support 7.4), worked just as described in the migration manual on the sapdb.org site and no issues so far :)

Watz

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