The lack of native Win32 version of PostgreSQL is the main reason I selected
SAPDB. However, Win32 no longer seems to be getting the attention from SAP
that it used to in the past. Example: lack of native dotNet drivers...
which almost every other database now has (at least in some form). And the
unresolved crashes with the SAPDB ODBC driver.
I think SAPDB is ignoring their lead on Win32 platform. The recent SQL
Slammer worm would have been a great opportunity to win converts... yet
SAPDB still remains a secret.
I fear that branding it as "MySQL Enterprise" is just going to make it more
obscure. The mySQL users are going to balk at the major compatibility
differences. I would be impressed if they developed a mySQL syntax
compatibility interface that was 100% - in some regards, SAPDB already has
code abstraction to different interfaces ("Oracle" mode).
Stephen Gutknecht
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicolai Tufar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Sergio Samayoa; Edgar Castanedo; Ray Harrison;
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Subject: Re: SAPDB and mySQL
I have used PostgreSQL extensively. It has everything you mentioned (PK, FK,
Check constraints,
triggers, stored procedure, selectavle stored procedures (functions?),
transactional control). The
only thing that PostgreSQL lacks to compete with Oracle and DB2 (and later
SAP/DB by the way)
directly is point-in-time recovery and hot backup. They promise to have this
feature by July plus
a native Win32 port which is also a must.
Regards,
Nicolai
----- Original Message -----
From: Sergio Samayoa
To: Edgar Castanedo ; Ray Harrison ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: SAPDB and mySQL
I have experience in Oracle, Interbase / Firebird, MS SQL and SAPDB.
If you are looking for new open source RDBMS instead of SAPDB I recomend you
FireBird. It is the fork of Interbase 6, and Interbase has almost 20 years
of existence since it early days on DEC. It has all you need for an active
database (PK, FK, Check constraints, triggers, stored procedures, selectable
stored procedures, transaction control, etc.). I ran succesfully up to 100
to 150 users in C/S environment with very modest server hardware. Above that
level you should look for more powerfull RDBMS such Oracle. I never use
PostgreSQL then I cant say anything about it.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Edgar Castanedo
Enviado el: Martes, 27 de Mayo de 2003 10:42 a.m.
Para: Ray Harrison; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: SAPDB and mySQL
MySQL was the first database which I learned from. It wasn't long before I
realized I needed something more powerful. Then I found PostgreSQL. I
haven't used much else. Oracle... just a bit. Then very recently, I found
SAPDB and was impressed. How ironic that I have just found a database server
that meets my requirements, and to hear that they are possibly merging with
MySQL.
So do I "rollback" to using PostgreSQL? What about Firebird? I would like to
use Oracle, but there are too many restrictions, not to mention a hefty
pricetag.
I don't want to be hasty, but I think I should start looking around again,
just in case these rumors are true. Does anyone have a second runner up in
the open source database race?
Ray Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Like many on this list I was disheartened by this news. My main
questions, if Daniel, Elke et al are still available, are:
1.) What happens to the SAP DB code tree? Will it merge with mySQL or
will it be a separate product? Or will the code tree just go away?
2.) Will SAP LABS do any work on the 7.5 fork or will it only do minimal
work on 7.4?
3.) If the answer to (1) is that it will merge with mySQL, what versions
of mySQL will end up as the co-product of SAP DB and mySQL?
To re-name a product that carries with it a substantial amount of weight
(SAP DB) to mySQL (despite their recent advances, it still comes across
as a toy in the minds of many) is a travesty.
Cheers
Ray Harrison
Managing Partner
TSG International, LLC
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