I worried about the future of the SAPDB as an enterprise database.
Maybe this ist the wrong place.

Is there a fork between SAPDB internal(R/3) and the SAPDB, that is going with
MYSQL,
or will those companies, that use SAPDB with their R/3-systems, get their
database in future from MYSQL?


Thorsten Weers



"Stephen Gutknecht (SAPDB)" wrote:

> mySQL isn't assimilating SAPDB. They are getting it for free.  I doubt they
> even know what they have yet.
>
> Do you really think the tiny little mySQL organization "bought out" SAPDB :0
> SAP is a huge company with huge profits compared to mySQL.
>
> You are reading the public relations 'spin'.
>
> Here is one possible view of the "recent" SAPDB history...
>
> 1.  SAP purchased Adabase and had internal-only SAPDB for R/3.  They offered
> it as an option for R/3 customers.  Maybe it was a swipe at Oracle (Oracle
> is a R/3 competitor along with Peoplesoft, not just a database vendor).
> Maybe they had a couple thousand customers who used SAPDB, but not very
> many.  Most continue to use Oracle with R/3.
> 2.  SAP management decided after so many years that SAPDB this was not
> benefiting the R/3 business and then decided to release SAPDB as open
> source.
> 3.  The open source usage of SAPDB never really took off.   SAP pretty much
> treated it like a 'commercial product' but with free distribution.  The
> source code was not very inviting to outsiders - and other than S390 and
> FreeBSD ports, not much has really come INTO SAPDB from being opened. Very
> few people in the open source community know the SAP name, and SAPDB itself
> is "best kept secret."  Despite being free for over 2 years, it is still
> very obscure.
> 4.  SAPDB decided to cut $.  Paying Germany professional salary rates to
> continue to support and develop SAPDB, which is generating no income nor
> significant positive press.  So they work to develop a exit plan...
> 5.  SAP strikes a deal to give SAPDB to MySQL including labor of the
> employees for some time period.  Better than just shutting the doors
> overnight, but still a plan to rid themselves of the product line and staff
> (just in a phased approach).
>
> I think the "open sourcing" of SAPDB was a _last ditch effort_ for a product
> dying from own weight.  I think management at SAP decided open sourcing
> didn't work and is exiting the stage on the DB market.  MySQL picked it up
> at clearance price.  I wouldn't be surprised if mySQL is getting free labor
> (paid employees for x years) and all the technology out of the deal.  In
> other words, SAP may be _paying_ mySQL to take the product as part of a
> graceful way of ridding themselves of the product.
>
> Wild speculation on my part.  Only my personal opinion of the tracks I see
> on the road.  I could bey _way way off_.  No intention to offend anyone.
>
>   Stephen Gutknecht
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sven K�hler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:36 PM
> To: Zak Greant
> Cc: Thomas Cataldo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MySQL AB and the SAP DB community
>
> [snip]
>
> I feel like you MySQL-people are assimilating SAPDB. At least the Borg
> claim to learn things while assimilating other species. I'm not sure if
> MySQL will.
>
> Please supply us with a plan what will be done!
> We need it! Proove, that you are not foolish enough, to create a product
> that is not as good as the one we already have (i should say "had",
> because SAPDB is no more - R.I.P)
>
> [snip]
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